Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion

  • You think you know and have said so so many times I've long lost count, , but I also looked at the data and didn't consider it proven that it didn't work.

    You looked at the data? I thought you said you never looked at the Penon report. You & Axil said that.


    If you looked at the Penon report data and you think it worked, you are technically incompetent. To learn why, read the reports from Murray and Smith.

  • Wrong, it was not overdue when filed. They still had several days according to the amended agreement. But that is not the point.


    Axil was claiming "Keeping the Quark IP out of the hands of IH was the main reason for the lawsuit"

    that is he filled to prevent IH from getting the technology he agreed to.


    So what, That is what lawsuits are for. The judge makes an impartial decision about contracts and business. No morality involved. Rossi got what he wanted. He is THE MAN.

  • Axil, I have no desire to be taught to plagiarize random technical articles. The papers I have published contain only my own words and I plan to keep it that way. So, no thanks, even though I am sure you could tell me things about neutrons that would have blown James Chadwick’s mind, or at least would have him spinning in his grave.

  • Remember the "spec" was for the six cylinder device and for technology transfer. Going to Fl was Rossi's brainchild. If he had actually did a technology transfer as agreed to, then others would have been able to use the technology without him "on site almost constantly".


    All your Doral court case arguments are mute, Rossi won.

  • Axil, I have no desire to be taught to plagiarize random technical articles. The papers I have published contain only my own words and I plan to keep it that way. So, no thanks, even though I am sure you could tell me things about neutrons that would have blown James Chadwick’s mind, or at least would have him spinning in his grave.


    How can you protect science if you don't want to engage in science?

  • Once it became clear IH were not going to pay him according to the contract, what do you think he should have done?

    Assuming the gadget work, he should have DEMONSTRATED IT ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT!!! The Penon report shows that he did not do that. His own data proves that he failed. How can you expect I.H. to pay when Rossi's own data shows he had no heat?


    Rossi agreed that it did not work. He made up the bullshit about the invisible heat exchanger to cover up his failure.


    Really, that is about the dumbest thing you have asked. Even though you believe it worked, surely you understand that I.H., Murray, I and everyone else involved in this is was sincerely convinced it did not work. So the only way Rossi could have been paid was to convince us otherwise. Which he could not do by inventing bullshit about invisible heat exchangers. Do you imagine that everyone who evaluated this claim (including me) was engaged in a conspiracy?


    The payment was overdue when he filed.

    No, it was not overdue, but even if it had been, no one would ever pay when the report from the inventor proves his invention does not work.


    He made no effort at all to convince people it worked. He did not even answer Murray's questions. Okay, I know that you are convinced, because you believe everything Rossi says, but you should realize that with no answers to those questions, and no effort at all to address the problems, there is no way they would pay.


    You probably believe in the invisible heat exchanger. You have to realize, the people from I.H. were actually there, they have photos, and they know darn well there was nothing in the mezzanine. Ever. "Rossi says" may delude you, Axil, and other true believers, but it cannot fool people who were actually in the facility.


  • All these issues where found in discovery, they were adjudicated and the case was settled. Its over. Do yourself a favor; forget about it.

  • Wrong, it was not overdue when filed. They still had several days according to the amended agreement. But that is not the point.

    Prove it. Show me the actual date then. In the deposition IH even argued that the one year test wasn't "the test" yet they never mentioned that while the test was on going. They were quite happy to show Woodford how well it worked and take 50 million from them (Woodford said they had done their own two year due diligence.)

    Rossi had read the signs correctly, IH never had any intention of paying up. They didn't have the money. Do you really think Cherokee would pitch in after they distanced themselves from day one?

  • Prove it. Show me the actual date then. In the deposition IH even argued that the one year test wasn't "the test" yet they never mentioned that while the test was on going. They were quite happy to show Woodford how well it worked and take 50 million from them (Woodford said they had done their own two year due diligence.)

    Rossi had read the signs correctly, IH never had any intention of paying up. They didn't have the money. Do you really think Cherokee would pitch in after they distanced themselves from day one?

    Rossi never claimed it was a test until late into "the year". Before he claimed it was a two year sale of heat to a "customer". But this is old stuff. (IH never told Woodford that they thought the 1MW in FL worked - other research yes, but Doral, no.)

  • Rossi never claimed it was a test until late into "the year". Before he claimed it was a two year sale of heat to a "customer". But this is old stuff. (IH never told Woodford that they thought the 1MW in FL worked - other research yes, but Doral, no.)

    Completely wrong.

    How was Rossi going to get the real money without the agreed test. He waited almost a year for IH to find a customer and they clearly didn't even try. You think Cherokee didn't have suitable contacts? They even owned a brick factory (from memory.) So Rossi was forced to do it himself. He thought he had a deal with J & J but that fell through and he TOLD Darden it had. Darden said he didn't care if the heat was just vented.


    Yes Cherokee did have Woodford visit. There are photos or a video of Darden & Co showing Woodford around the plant and speaking very enthusiastically about it. Do you really think Woodford would invest $50 million if IH had told them it didn't work. LOL


    You are wrong, insulting and clueless. Please address your question to somebody else. I have had enough of you.

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    Г.В. Тарасенко, Е.А. Демичева


    КГУТИ им. Ш. Есенова, [email protected]


    Образование вулканов связано с земным электричеством (электропечи), которое


    расплавляет горную породу и образует магму. Доказательством электричества в


    вулканах служат молнии над вулканами, которые закручивают продукты извержения и


    шаровых бомб-конкреций. Магмы под континентами нет и планета Земля холодная с


    температурой до 600 градусов в ядре. Но повышение температуры происходит за счет


    эффекта Росси при достижении определенной температуры расплава и далее она


    работает в автоматическом режиме, как в опытах Росси.


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    G.V. Tarasenko, E.A. Demicheva
    Sh. Yesenov Caspian State University of Technologies and Engineering
    [email protected]
    Formation of volcanoes is connected with terrestrial electricity (electric furnace)
    which melts rock and forms magma. As the proof of electricity lightnings over volcanoes
    which twist products of eruption and spherical bombs concretions serve in volcanoes.
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    degrees in a kernel. But temperature increase happens due to Rossi's effect at achievement of
    a certain temperature of fusion and further it works in the automatic mode, as

  • I have little doubt the Doral adventure was intended as The Test. It was not signed off by all parties necessary to make it the The Test, however, which certainly injures the start date. The start time period for start The Test may also have elapsed, and I recall a Darden statement regarding that, but cannot find an email to back that up. It may have been a Deposition statement, which I think will carry far less weight in this animated discussion. Deceptions involved with the faked independence of the Customer would likely be enough to make any contract unenforceable, even if the Test was endorsed by all parties necessary to begin the official Test.


    Rossi's videos were corrupted or impossible to use due to software issues, so no dancing and tour videos appear to exist. No effort seems to have been made to fix that even after complaints by IH during the early days of the proceedings.


    The timing of the Woodford visits to the Plant and the Woodford investments do not lend much credence to Woodford being encouraged to invest based on Plant performance.

  • Ah Para,


    You're bringing back so many memories.


    Love this little passage written by Ross in June, 23, 2014 after he had been waiting for ALMOST ONE YEAR for IH to do something with the delivered plant.


    "Considering the fact that from August 2013, when Leonardo has delivered the plant ready to go, Industrial Heat has not got the possibility to find a real Customer and the necessary permissions to install a LENR plant, I think it is Important for all of us take this opportunity in serious consideration."


    It almost (almost) makes me sympathize with the situation he was in: it appears he was basically attempting ANYTHING to get IH to stop dragging their feet and get the one year test underway, including forming a shell company as the "customer."

  • When Rossi enthusiasts claim he won Rossi vs IH vs Rossi, it illustrates clearly how bizarre their thought process truly is. Rossi sued for $89M plus triple punitive damages. IH countersued for 11.5M plus or minus. In the settlement, Rossi got NOTHING (nada, zip, zilch) on his almost $400 MILLION complaint and paid his own legal bills in the millions. So this was a win for Rossi? In which alternative universe?

  • When Rossi enthusiasts claim he won Rossi vs IH vs Rossi, it illustrates clearly how bizarre their thought process truly is. Rossi sued for $89M plus triple punitive damages. IH countersued for 11.5M plus or minus. In the settlement, Rossi got NOTHING (nada, zip, zilch) on his almost $400 MILLION complaint and paid his own legal bills in the millions. So this was a win for Rossi? In which alternative universe?


    I guess you could interpret it in that non rational way when your Rossi-hate reaches a local peak... When you calm down again you could read the Mats Lewan interview to understand it was not about the money but all about getting the license and IP back... To Rossi it is worth a lot more than what he might have got from IH (they would probably only have filed chapter11, and it would have taken forever)


    https://animpossibleinvention.…-was-rossis-top-priority/

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    When you calm down again you could read the Mats Lewan interview to understand it was not about the money but all about getting the license and IP back...


    Mats Lewan is a Rossi acolyte who has learned absolutely nothing about the scientific method and proper experimental procedures in the last seven years. All he has ever done is to parrot the drivel Rossi feeds him. He is the person most responsible for the unconscionable waste of resources om Rossi since 2011. If he had ever had the intelligence and backbone to demand that Rossi run proper calibrations of the measurement system and have input power supplies and metering provided by people other than Rossi, the whole scam would have never been possible. So I don't care in the least what Mats Lewan thinks.


    However, IH was very clear. In their view, Rossi's IP was worthless. NOTHING he gave them or instructed them to do or make EVER worked. NONE OF IT. He didn't need to sue for $400 million to get it back and he didn't need to spend several million dollars for trial preparations. I am certain if Rossi had simply asked IH to give him back the IP, they would have. IH desperately wanted to get rid of this unpleasant man and his worthless claims. They would doubtless have also liked to get back some of that completely wasted $11+ Million they gave him to start with.


    Alan Smith

    I am sure I read that Krivit read the Italian newspaper articles in the originals. I guess I could ask him-- I have his email address -- but it isn't worth the trouble. His meticulous documentation of Rossi's extensive criminality speaks for itself. It is vastly more relevant to the Rossi case than the travelogue and Rossi quotes one gets from Lewan's silly book and his even worse interviews.


    http://newenergytimes.com/v2/s…al-Criminal-History.shtml

  • Alan Smith

    I am sure I read that Krivit read the Italian newspaper articles in the originals. I guess I could ask him-- I have his email address -- but it isn't worth the trouble. His meticulous documentation of Rossi's extensive criminality speaks for itself. It is vastly more relevant to the Rossi case than the travelogue and Rossi quotes one gets from Lewan's silly book and his even worse interviews.


    So Mary, basically you made up the 'fact' that Krivit speaks fluent Italian based on something you read somewhere. I can read Italian newspapers too, they don't use dialect words too much and you can take them at your own pace. I also speak a (very) little. However, like me, when in Italy Krivit normally speaks English, never Italian. Speaking a little is one thing, but to be fluent you have to be able to understand the responses. It is of course possible that like many other Americans he has a good knowledge of Spanish, which it may surprise you to know is a great help when it comes to understanding some Italian, especially written Italian.

  • I am certain if Rossi had simply asked IH to give him back the IP, they would have. IH desperately wanted to get rid of this unpleasant man and his worthless claims.


    Well, he did. He even offered to pay for getting the license back, but they denied. IH did not want to get rid of Rossi. On the contrary they absolutely wanted to keep him in tight leash silenced by NDA for as long as possible.


    All this will be obvious to you when your tantrums ebb out.