Covid-19 (WuFlu) News

  • What did I miss?

    I would advise having hand sanitizer available at your home entrance and to remove shoes as you enter. Me, I have just gotten a UV lamp in my entry hall where I place packages and coats (turned on remotely for a minute after entry) I also change clothes when coming home and wash clothing more often. You may want to raise the air temp in your house and uv light room air filters (HEPA) but 20 of 7 is right avoid groups is perhaps #1.

  • The Chinese government reported that 1,700 health care workers have contracted the virus, and 6 have died. That is a mortality rate of 0.4%. It is about 4 times higher than ordinary flu. I think this is a reliable estimate because they probably keep close track of health care workers, and they probably give them the best treatment available. This is probably the best estimate of mortality we have so far.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/0…ia/china-coronavirus.html

  • The Chinese government reported that 1,700 health care workers have contracted the virus, and 6 have died. That is a mortality rate of 0.4%. It is about 4 times higher than ordinary flu. I think this is a reliable estimate because they probably keep close track of health care workers, and they probably give them the best treatment available. This is probably the best estimate of mortality we have so far.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/0…ia/china-coronavirus.html

    Mortality rate is 4 times higher than the flu. But it is 50 times! lower than that of Ebola. Why all the fuss? Nothing else on TV these days?

  • Mortality rate is 4 times higher than the flu. But it is 50 times! lower than that of Ebola. Why all the fuss? Nothing else on TV these days?

    This has the potencial to impact larger devoloped populations than Ebola. Also western media tends to make a bigger deal of diseases that have a likelihood of impacting their financial/population centers than more dangerous things that may impact less developed countries. Kinda sad when you think about it.

  • Mortality rate is 4 times higher than the flu. But it is 50 times! lower than that of Ebola. Why all the fuss? Nothing else on TV these days?

    As noted, the infection rate is far higher than ebola. In the U.S., ordinary influenza kills 12,000 to 61,000 per year, depending on how virulent it is. The Wuhan flu appears to be very virulent, based on what has happened in Japan. So, a 0.4% mortality rate would kill approximately 61,000 * 4 = 244,000. But, you have to increase that by about 40%. In the U.S., ~40% of adults get a flu shot, so they are nearly all immune. There is no flu shot for Wuhan flu, so roughly 40% more people will get it. That's another 98,000 deaths, around 342,000 total. That would be one of the worst epidemics in U.S. history. In absolute numbers, it would be about half the deaths of the Civil War, the worst war in U.S. history. It would also be an economic and social disaster, as it already is in China.


    That's why all the fuss.

  • Mortality rate is 4 times higher than the flu.

    The experts at Marseilles I cited earlier, are not impressed, and account the mortality out of the ground zero province. The find it is similar to flu (the numbers the give is 0.1% for flu 0.17% for Covid19 in mainland china out of ground zero)


    However I agree with Curbina that it cannot be contained, just slowed...

    I will catch it, and I hope my asthma will not send me to the hospital, else I hope they will try to keep me alive with what the Chinese doctors have tried... That is life.

    I got the flu in January, strong but for 2 days because I was immunized, and no later complications because of the usual protocol for asthmatic people that my doctor prescribed... I feel in better condition than before (because few days of sleeping are good)... Tell me good luck 8). Good luck to all of you... Hopefully we are not like in 1919.

  • Every year is a (easier) challenge to survive. Hopefully with modernity, it is easier now than when my dad was kid. Celebrate those who have worked to cure you ...

    If the Chinese succeed in blocking Covid19, it will be something greater than Sputnik.

  • A former video from one of the few reference hospital about infections (they explained in another video I relayed, that they do PCR sequencing by thousands a day)...

    The professors seems clearly FED UP by the panic (it is visible but less on later video when he continues explaining it is yet anothe flu).

    The cause of the coverage for him is simply that the Chinese authority are more advanced than many countries in sequencing DNA and RNA of infections, routinely, systematically.

    He explais that they see cases of coronavirus every year and estimate hundreds every year ...

    He explains that such coronavirus appear every year, that those in Asia are less known, and since China is now developped and motivated enough to detect any new virus, we reach this strange situation....


    Basically he is fed up that on one side old virus are not considered enough despite their yearly mortality, and that a new virus catch undue relative coverage...


    Despite his bearded look, this man is

    Pr Didier Raoult, Director of l'IHU Méditerranée Infection , specialised in very dangerous disease (even ebola, plague...)

    https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/en/


    Beside that there is probably a breakthrough in disease treatment, or rather a confirmation.

    Remdesivir drug is working well...

    https://www.tellerreport.com/l…mdesivir-.rkWkE3X47U.html

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    Why all the fuss? Nothing else on TV these days?

    Why? Really? There is some native immunity for influenza due to a long history of exposure and vaccinations and there is a vaccine. In the case of Ebola, the disease is so quickly lethal and the spread is mostly from body fluids so it is feasible to restrict it to geographic areas where it is endemic. There is also a new vaccine for Ebola, now approved in four countries and said to be 98% preventive and even effective in treatment of established cases.


    None of that is true for COVID-19. It can be spread during the incubation period by individuals who have no symptoms. There may be "supercarriers" who are infective for a long period but also have no symptoms. There seems to be no native immunity and so far there is no vaccine. This means billions (with a B) of people could be infected. Calculate an 0.4% death rate of that! Not to mention the load on medical services and supplies, and the disruption of entire economies. COVID-19 makes many people very sick and in need of isolation and lots of expensive care, even when it doesn't kill them.


    While the death rate is not gigantic, that also could change with evolution of the virus. Influenza is a greater cause of death at the moment but COVID-19 could surpass it quickly.


    The question is dizzyingly silly.

  • Despite his bearded look, this man is

    I know there are some on the pro and some on the con side of doctors having beards. (some old studies with Staph and beards, but...) But I personally avoid doctors with beards - especially surgeons with beards. It is very hard to get a good seal on a mask when wearing a beard. Perhaps Ok in a clinical setting but not in a BL-4 Lab.


    There are also studies about doctors with ties. How often do they wash their ties.

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    Beside that there is probably a breakthrough in disease treatment, or rather a confirmation.

    Remdesivir drug is working well...

    https://www.tellerreport.com/l…mdesivir-.rkWkE3X47U.html

    Come on, Alain. That's a report of a single case! And anecdotal at that! To prove that remdesivir with or without chloroquine works, there need to be large, double blind, placebo controlled studies. These are very difficult to perform in very sick patients for ethical reasons. It's a hopeful thing but far from proven, IMO, so far. However, so far, I could find no cost information for the drug.