The Exotic Vacuum Object (EVO) as the cause of the vacuum reaction.

  • Yet when the flame of the torch was placed on the Teflon, it did not burn and it did not melt, it remained unmarked and straight. And no one was gased.

    Just food for thought....

    A metal reacts readily with an acid (which is chemically speaking H3O+) or an excess of protons or Hydrogen if you will. The funny thing is, it does not reacts with plastic beakers or glass (mostly). Case in point, the radicals created in HHO gas are just like the Acidic or Alkaline components in water (there is always a little bit even in pure water). so it is in my mind not surprising at all there is a huge difference in reaction to exposure of HHO gas between plastic like stuff and a metal...
    So this can easily be explained with a chemical mindset, nothing fancy about it. It is a very interesting thing though and worth researching IMHO.

  • Just food for thought....

    A metal reacts readily with an acid (which is chemically speaking H3O+) or an excess of protons or Hydrogen if you will. The funny thing is, it does not reacts with plastic beakers or glass (mostly). Case in point, the radicals created in HHO gas are just like the Acidic or Alkaline components in water (there is always a little bit even in pure water). so it is in my mind not surprising at all there is a huge difference in reaction to exposure of HHO gas between plastic like stuff and a metal...
    So this can easily be explained with a chemical mindset, nothing fancy about it. It is a very interesting thing though and worth researching IMHO.

    It is my belief that the LENR reaction is predicated on a mechanism that is underpinned by transition metals. In his patent, Piantelli states that the reaction is supported by all transition metals. The production mechanisms of Surface plasmon polaritons (SPP) requires a metal dielectric surface interface.



    This LENR reaction production mechanism might have been the reason why the titanium sheet and copper coin exploded after a time when the metal came in contact with the Teflon. Usually, hydrogen provides the dielectric properties required to produce the SPPs in sufficient amounts to support the development of the LENR reaction. But air is not sufficiently dielectric to produce the required conditions for SPP development and amplification on the surface of a metal. But the Teflon has the correct dielectric properties upon direct contact with a metal to greatly support and amplify the SPPs as the active agent in the LENR reaction.

  • FYI


    Surface plasmon polaritons (SPPs) are electromagnetic waves that travel along the interface between a metal and a dielectric or air. The term "surface plasmon polariton" refers to the fact that the wave involves both charge motion in the metal and electromagnetic waves in the air or dielectric.

    SPPs are collective electron oscillations that occur when an external electromagnetic wave interacts with the free electrons in a metal at the metal–dielectric interface. They are collective longitudinal oscillations of electrons near a material surface, strongly coupled to an electromagnetic wave.


    SPPs propagate in a wave-like fashion along the planar interface between a metal and a dielectric medium. Their amplitude decays exponentially with increasing distance into each medium from the interface.


    SPPs propagate tangentially to the surface and decay exponentially in the perpendicular direction. Their wavelength is often smaller when compared to the free space wavelength at the same frequency.


    Spoof SPPs inherit the properties of natural SPPs, including dispersion characteristics, field confinement, and subwavelength resolution.

  • You should go to a church where one highly estimates hearty believe..


    Physics is about facts=experiments that finally match a mathematical/logic model... thus not much believe just dry facts...

    The Greenyer/Egely experiment is a solid demonstration of experimental fact presentation on the fly as it happened. Anyone who is devoted to the science/logic model is constrained and convinced by such evidence presented thereto. How this group of supposed supporters of the logic model of science can resist those facts presented in these resent posts must have some ulterior motives exclusive of any logic.


    In point of fact, Ken Shoulders said that the big guns in the LENR community is too heavily invested in a decades long list of pronouncements that have been documented in numerous publications that they cannot deviate from. It is this community that has a religious belief system of disproven and misguided doctrinaire that resists any progress in understating the LENR reaction.


    Lessen to what Ken Shoulders thought about the cold fusion community, its leaders, and the EVO.


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  • Yet when the flame of the torch was placed on the Teflon, it did not burn and it did not melt, it remained unmarked and straight. And no one was gased.

    Held still for the same amount of time with an identical flame distance for the various substances, including replicates and data recorded for analysis, or for as long as someone felt like it on some random stuff laying about?

  • Yet when the flame of the torch was placed on the Teflon, it did not burn and it did not melt,

    Its quite difficult to get Teflon to burn or melt..

    also it has a very low conductivity


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  • Its quite difficult to get Teflon to burn or melt..

    Teflon, as claimed, has been invented to protect the Gemini capsule during re-entrance and should withstand > 3000C. This is nonsense!


    Teflon has been invented a long time before (1938) and melts around 330C. The fact is that F- is more electro-negative than O- and thus is will not burn in air.

  • We already went through the chemistry of Teflon and how the PTFE ‘un-zips’ years ago. Research that, and circle back around.
    Hundreds of people have discovered to their horror that a Teflon-coated frying pan left on the stove too hot can kill a canary even 40 feet away.

  • Gemini Spacecraft Propulsion (geminiguide.com)

    Heat Shield

    The heat shield is a dish-shaped structure composed of silicone elastomer filled, phenolic impregnated, fiberglass honeycomb. It is an ablative device, 90 inches in diameter with a spherical radius of 144 inches. The shield is designed to protect the re-entry module from extreme thermal conditions during re-entry into the atmosphere. The device is attached to the large diameter end of the cabin structure by 1/4 inch bolts.

  • Gravitational Turbulent Instability of Anti-de Sitter Space
    https://arxiv.org/abs/1109.182…pport%20for%20this%20idea.

    Ken Shoulders States that he was convinced that the EVO produced black holes because of the behavior of the EVOs that he observed. Shoulders saw matter go into the EVO but nothing ever came out. Neither did any form of energy exit the EVO. The question becomes where does the mass and energy absorbed by the EVO go to? The issue covered in this post involves the possible mechanism that will produce this energy/matter disappearance behavior within the EVO by precipitating the formation of a micro black hole.

    The referenced paper states as follows:

    Quote

    Bizon and Rostworowski have recently suggested that anti-de Sitter spacetime might be nonlinearly unstable to transfering energy to smaller and smaller scales and eventually forming a small black hole. We consider pure gravity with a negative cosmological constant and find strong support for this idea. While one can start with a single linearized mode and add higher order corrections to construct a nonlinear geon, this is not possible starting with a linear combination of two or more modes. One is forced to add higher frequency modes with growing amplitude. The implications of this turbulent instability for the dual field theory are discussed.


    The characteristic that the EVO must possess is that it is a spacetime that has a negative cosmological constant.

    The EVO is formed from a Bose Einstein Condensate (BEC) of polaritons that has negative energy. This condensate will produce "anti-de Sitter spacetime" which is a spacetime that has a negative cosmological constant.

    The referenced paper shows how any energy waves (aka geon) input into a confined anti-de Sitter spacetime circular containment will be inherently gravitationally unstable. Over time this instability will concentrate this energy into a micro black hole.

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  • Ken Shoulders States that he was convinced that the EVO produced black holes

    rather than exotic spacetime daydreams about "KenShoulders-said"

    there is

    a 2022 Hubler non exotic non blackhole explanation for "EVO's:"

    already referenced on LF several times..

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/375958549_A_Possible_Heuristic_Explanation_of_Exotic_Vacuum_Objects_EVO


    It is suggested that EVO’s are NOT a new form of matter

    (dense ball -1023 electrons per cc -with diameter of microns )

    but a manifestation of known thermomechanical and electromagnetic mechanisms

    acting on the thermal insulator, a small portion of which is rapidly heated that then generates a micro shaped charge.

    Many of the attributes of EVO’s or charged clusters can be explained by this model.

  • Many of the attributes of EVO’s or charged clusters can be explained by this model.

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    One characteristic of an EVO that this conventional trope does not cover is the disappearance of matter and energy while the EVO is active. Ken Should should have known about this issue and he has commented on it..


    What Ken Shoulders said about black holes inside EVOs


    They contain
    46:50

    all the characteristic that black hole does they swallowed material to make it go away
    46:56

    that's what they do astrophysics has a talks about black
    47:01

    holes big black holes I said same thing all the way down it
    47:08

    goes in and where does it go out the nigga's in the hole in the gazelle
    47:14

    it goes into another Universe there's another writing on that subject now that's where you get spooky
    47:20

    I don't believe in other universities I don't believe that I see them go away so
    47:25

    they let where I am if they went somewhere else I gotta assign that a
    47:31

    place you just don't have the vision I can bring them back see it as long as they don't go too far

  • Shoulders Black Hole Universe Condensates

    You missed out EVO

    which originally started out as EV " strong electron"

    electron validum

    definitely Exotic Vacuum Object is more catchy than EV...


    unfortunately the sketchy 1996 evidence for EV or NEV or EVO in electrolytic LENR from Dash's samples may well have been due to impurities from rolling..

    Shoulder's noted this seven years later

    "Note entered 2/19/03 John Dash has requested the removal of data relating to his work on the grounds that his samples were likely contaminated during a metallurgical rolling process thus weakening the claims of transmutation. Although adequate warning of such an effect is included in this paper, the authors gladly comply with the request of John Dash and leave the data intact but add this additional warning as to the interpretation of the data. John Dash is not to be held responsible for any data presented.

    Observations on the Role of Charge Clusters in Nuclear Cluster Reactions - Natural Philosophy Wiki




  • unfortunately the sketchy 1996 evidence for EV or NEV or EVO in electrolytic LENR from Dash's samples may well have been due to impurities from rolling..

    We have new evidence of element reformation and transmutation from EVOs from multiple systems in the form of hollow thin walled crenellated balls that ranger in diameter from nanometers to microns that are proportional in size to the EVOs that produced these balls.


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