Quote from JedRothwell

I find this surprising, and disturbing:

Which one...the deer or the children?

I am confident it is correct.

BLP is moving to Austin. Anyone know why, and also if the whole staff will be making the move? I find this interesting because the University of Texas (UOT) system has been fertile ground for LENR over the years. Not sure that has anything to do with it though. It may simply be that the move is for tax purposes.

BLP has been trying to secure $50 million investment, and could this possibly indicate they were successful? Costs a lot of money to move a company.

One of the most vaccinated western countries (Iceland) reimposes restrictions:

Iceland reimposes COVID restrictions after cases surge

Iceland, one of the first nations in the world to lift all COVID restrictions for vaccinated tourists, on Friday announced new curbs following a spate of…

medicalxpress.com

While the least vaxxed (Sweden) is dong fine:

Sweden daily Covid deaths hit zero, with human liberty still intact - BizNews.com

As daily covid deaths in Sweden hits zero, the unusual strategy adopted by Swedes appears to have been the best approach to the pandemic.

www.biznews.com

This conversation can happen without making it personal. The LF motto is "check your ego at the door", followed by "do not insult other members".

Quote from magicsound

I've started a live doc for my LEC project: https://tinyurl.com/69z7sn3e

Here's a first surprise:

EDX analysis showed no trace of Iron (Fe) on the cathode after plating. Tin (Sn) was seen at 5 to 8% over the colored surface area.The usual carbon from organic contaminants in the electrolyte was also seen.

It seems possible to me that selective migration of trace tin in the copper tubing occurred during electrolysis. The electrochemical potential between copper and tin is 220 mV, so the voltage applied to the cell in the third step (when the color appeared) would be sufficient for ionic separation.

   

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Years of lab experience and training may make this a surprise to you and many others here, but could you explain to the rest of us why it is a surprise, and what LENR significance it may have in the grand scheme of things?

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That is very encouraging for a small RCT. Luckily, rather than rely on contentious and fudgable meta-studies we have several studies of IVM in process that will provide definitive answers for its utility in that sort of use case. PRINCIPLE and that US loads'O'dosh study that TSN seems to think is funded by an immoral researcher. Luckily the study results and reception will depend only on quality and size of the trial - not TSN's opinion of the person in charge.

I forgot to check, but hopefully PRINCIPLE is using IVM +. Not just IVM alone. It seems to have been lost in the contentious debate, but when HCQ, then IVM first became news, they were used in conjunction with Z-packs, and Zinc. HCQ was at the time considered an ionophore to help the Zinc enter the cell so it could do it's thing.Over time Vit D, C and a few others were added to the cocktail.

Recently Dr. Zelenko reiterated that it takes all working together for the best HCQ efficacy, and the FLCCC said the same thing for their MATH+, and I-MASK IVER protocols.

Quote from Gregory Byron Goble

Indian Head Division

You have talked to every Navy researcher?

That's nice.

Thanks. Just a reminder so everyone is on the same page; the US Navy recently reopened their LENR research:

Whether Cold Fusion or Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions, U.S. Navy Researchers Reopen Case

Spurred on by continued anomalous nuclear results, multiple labs now working to get to bottom of story

spectrum.ieee.org

"Scientists at the Naval Surface Warfare Center, Indian Head Division have pulled together a group of Navy, Army, and National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) labs to try and settle the debate. Together, the labs will conduct experiments in an effort to establish if there’s really something to the cold fusion idea, if it’s just odd chemical interactions, or if some other phenomenon entirely is taking place in these controversial experiments."

Quote from Shane D.

Anyway, I emailed Forsley and asked...making it a point to tell him LF member Ahlfor is one of our most reliable sources. Waiting for his reply; if he will be so kind as to give us one.

The "Development and Testing of High Power Space Generators" may have been affected by COVID (as have other projects), but it has not been canceled, or retracted.

Thank you Larry for the quick response.

New MFMP video by Bob Greenyer. I have not had time yet to skim over it (2 hours long):

Last communication we had with them was when Barty helped Daniel do something with their MTI website about 2 months ago. Very disappointing.

Quote from Ahlfors

... "Ahlfor's claims the program was canceled, but I still am not sure about that."

Not exactly so.

I take that to mean you are not "exactly" certain now that the joint NASA/GEC "Development and Testing of a High Power Space Generator" has been canceled or retracted.

Anyway, I emailed Forsley and asked...making it a point to tell him LF member Ahlfor is one of our most reliable sources. Waiting for his reply; if he will be so kind as to give us one.

Quote from THHuxleynew

Sorry Shane - you are way out of your depth here.

You should not. Look at the name of the side. Look at the way its "scientiific" information is written.

Yes - got it in one - it is propagating false anti-vax memes.

From wikipedia

Zero Hedge (or ZeroHedge)^[b] is a far-right^[12] libertarian^[17] financial blog,^[13][14] presenting staff-written articles and aggregating news and opinions from external sources.^[18] Zero Hedge, per its motto,^[a] is bearish in its investment outlook and analysis, often deriving from its adherence to the Austrian School of economics and credit cycles.^[22] While often labeled as a financial permabear,^[23][24] Zero Hedge has also been described as a source of "cutting-edge news, rumors and gossip in the financial industry".^[25]

Over time, Zero Hedge expanded into non-financial analysis,^[c] including conspiracy theories and fringe rhetoric^[27] associated with the US radical right,^[14][28] the alt-right,^[29][30][31] and a pro-Russian bias.^{[1][32][33][34]} Zero Hedge's non-financial commentary has led to a number of site bans by various global social media platforms, although its 2019 Facebook ban^[35][36] and 2020 Twitter ban were later reversed.^[14][37]

Zero Hedge in-house content is posted under the pseudonym "Tyler Durden"; the founder and main editor was identified as Daniel Ivandjiiski.^[26]

The science of PCR

(1) PCR tests are typically very accurate. They have a high false-negative rate if swabs are not taken correctly (it is unpleasant - they need to go deep into throat and nose). However with delta it will matter less: it has 1000X more viral load trypically.

(2) The cycle number (how much you amplify the RNA) alters sensitivity.

(3) Delta typically has muhc higher viral load in nose and mouth, so nthere is a case for moving to a lower cycle count

(4) Asymptomatic infections can transmit COVID (esp delta)

(5) whether you make your case count include asymptomatics is a judgement call. Only zerohedge would see this as a political big deal. it depends whether it is overall worth having more mildly ill or even asymptomatic people self-isolate - or less.

All this is written up by zerohedge zerofact as though CDC change or no change in guidelines is a matter of distorting science. It is not. It is just do you want the marginal cases to self-isolate or not. Not an easy decision to make, because delta alters infectivity and we are not entirely sure how much.

Of coiurse CDC may indeed want case counts to look higher (and closer to the real infection counts) if that persuades more of the waverers to get vaccinated. that woiuld be saving lives. A good thing for everyone to do - though antivax campaigners do not seem to see this or act on it themselves.

Shane - why is this bad judgement? You should know a conspiracy theory when you read one (the coloured text rather gives it away).

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Are we going to keep going through this every time I link to an article from a publication you do not approve of? Yes, they are to the right, and that is why I said it was "political", but "well sourced". I look to each article, whether from the left or right, for information. If too political, with little new to learn, I stop reading and wont put it here.

This problem with the PCR Ct settings has been reported on by both sides. Even the NYT's, Fauci, and the CDC have weighed in on it as leading to inaccurate data. Most of that is in the article I linked to.

Once above a certain threshold (which opinions vary as to what that is), they are worse than worthless...they lead to bad decisions by the decision makers. That needs to be addressed. Was it a conspiracy as the article alludes? I don't think so. I see it more as those leaders needing good info to do best for their citizens, are not always getting it. When they don't...well that is where independent reporting comes in.

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Quote from JedRothwell

The FAA's top space official outlines progress

— NASA does a deep dive on potential power sources for a moon base, including “cold fusion.”

https://www.politico.com/newsl…-outlines-progress-493703

Frontiers of Space Power and EnergyDocument ID
20210016143

Document Type
Technical Memorandum (TM)

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20210016143

The part about cold fusion is on pages 15, 16 and 17. It begins:

Farther Term

LENR - Revived (after experiments earlier in the 1900s) in the late 1980s [ref. 28] and dubbed

“Cold Fusion,” what is now usually termed LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions) was an

experimental discovery with replication issues at the time and lacked an acceptable theory.

Now, three decades of extant worldwide experiments [ref. 29] indicate “something nuclear” is

real. However, there does not yet exist a cogent, verified theory and therefore LENR has been

looked at with askance by the physics community. There are now extant recent weak force and

other weak neutron-based theories (not “hot” fusion) involving surface plasmons, electroweak

interactions explicable via QED on surfaces, collective effects, heavy electrons, ultraweak

neutrons, and utilizing neutron generation to obviate coulomb barrier issues. There are now

many patents and LENR is beginning to evolve into the marketplace. Given a validated theory to

engineer, scale, and make safe, LENR would obviously be a major world energy revolution,

especially with observed energy density levels surpassing those of chemical energy. In fact,

LENR has been observed in the tens to hundreds and theoretical possibilities into the many

thousands times chemical energy density levels. In the Widom-Larsen Theory [ref. 30], H2 is

adsorbed or “loaded” onto a metal surface and the resulting surface plasmon initiates collective

effects. Some energy is added and several types of energy appear to work. From the LENR

experiments and a sizable body of applicable related research, nano cracks/asperities in the

surface morphology concentrate energy over an area and produce high localized voltage

gradients. Such voltage gradients excite collective electrons to combine with protons in the

surface plasmon to form ultraweak neutrons. These neutrons readily interact, producing neutron

rich isotopes which undergo beta decay and transmutations. The heavy electron cloud converts

the beta decay to heat, sans worrisome radiation and coulomb barrier issues, in agreement with

experiment(s). . . .

etc.

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The wording on this Bushnell document while new (July 2021), reads like it was written a few years ago. Nothing he goes on to say after this section refers to the newer Forsley/Pines and team hybrid LENR space power generation system.

Ahlfor's claims the program was canceled, but I still am not sure about that.

Why Is The CDC Quietly Abandoning The PCR Test For COVID? | ZeroHedge

A bit political at the end, but until then a well sourced, good history of the COVID PCR test cycle threshold (Ct), and: "how PCR Tests have misled officials worldwide into insanely authoritative reactions".

Along the same lines, I noticed the other day in an article someone posted here, that Israel was still using a 37 Ct.

Quote from PhysicsForDummies

I just check in here occasionally but why is it that the most attention is spent on the most "fringy" and conspiracy theory fed potential treatments? First hydroxy chloroquine now ivermectin? I think there are some treatments starting trials which have more realistic potential to help. First is Tempol, which stops the virus replication. NIH has come out in support of this drug's potential. That could be a game changer. Also there are others like Leronlimab which greatly helps the critical category, but the company screwed up the trial and dosing, and needs to run a new one. Also there is Ampion which has shown promise, both inhaled and injected. My point is yes I hope ivermectin helps, but I don't think it is a panacea and people need to keep an open mind about every drug candidate.

Good question. IMO, Iver/HCQ were already used worldwide, multipurpose, and proven safe. All those time consuming, laborious trials therefore could be bypassed, and no spooling up of the production lines, distribution system were needed. It was packaged, ready to go. All it needed to become the first preventative treatment, was the blessing of the health care institutions...which never came. That led to a grass roots movement by doctors who swore to it's efficacy to spring up all over the world. That sets up the second part....

The David vs Goliath aspect of the story. The big government health institutions, and many private ones, along with certain politicians, became the Goliath that tried to kill off a perfectly safe, and possibly effective, drug. The David's are the thousands of doctors, and 6 nations that felt the drug worked so well they risked their livelihood, and their reputations in order to do what they felt was best for their patients, and citizens.

Stories like that capture the imagination, and sell.

Quote from Fm1

yesterday was world ivermectin day. See the videis presented from around the world talking ivermectin. Banned on yourube

https://trialsitenews.com/

Lots of information in there. Too much for me to sit all day and read/listen to, so I picked one to watch:

World Ivermectin Day: South America Panel

TrialSite News (digital media team) Dr Erin Stair in conversation with: Dr Hector Carvallo (Argentina), Dr Lucy Kerr (Brazil) and

trialsitenews.com

3 South American doctors, and all spoke passionately of the "overwhelming" results they are seeing when using Ivermectin. One published a study this week, but I could not understand what he said when telling where it was published. Their testimony rises above anecdotal IMO, because they are treating patients...both before Iver became available, and now after for comparison, but not quite up to the level of a trial result. So it probably will not impress THH.

One wanted to start a trial but was blocked from doing so. All are experiencing political push-back from colleagues, and the system in general. That seems to be universal now, where before it was limited to EU/US/Aus.

Reinforces my opinion that regardless of the outcome of the newer RCT's just being started, this drug has won over so many doctors after seeing it's positive effects first hand, that it will continue being used for COVID.

Quote from THHuxleynew

I have to say that I admire your PR abilities. You seem able to convince apparently level-headed but not very science-oriented people like Shane that you are possibly correct

I will take that as a backhanded compliment. When listening to other peoples science opinion, it seems like a good idea to consider they may be "possibly correct". You have said as much by acknowledging Ivermectin, and communist China are possibly correct. That is a sign of an open mind, so we share the same values. Good on you.

And BTW, I am pro vaccine. Very much so.

Opinion | The Flimsy Evidence Behind the CDC’s Push to Vaccinate Children

The agency overcounts Covid hospitalizations and deaths and won’t consider if one shot is sufficient.

www.wsj.com

My research team at Johns Hopkins worked with the nonprofit FAIR Health to analyze approximately 48,000 children under 18 diagnosed with Covid in health-insurance data from April to August 2020. Our report found a mortality rate of zero among children without a pre-existing medical condition such as leukemia.

Meanwhile, we’ve already seen inflated Covid death numbers in the U.S. revised downward. Last month Alameda County, Calif., reduced its Covid death toll by 25% after state public-health officials insisted that deaths be attributed to Covid only if the virus was a direct or contributing factor.

Hospitals routinely test patients being admitted for other complaints even if there’s no reason to suspect they have Covid. An asymptomatic child who tests positive after being injured in a bicycle accident would be counted as a “Covid hospitalization.”

Given the tremendous resources of the CDC and FDA, which together employ 39,000, these agencies ought to be able to report the statistics needed to make informed policy decisions. If the data are incomplete or flawed, so too will be the decisions derived from them. The vaccine’s benefits may outweigh its risks for healthy kids, but the government shouldn’t try to push that conclusion based on faulty data.

Quote from JedRothwell

A heartbreaking story:

https://www.al.com/news/2021/0…dying-covid-patients.html

This began with a Facebook posting by this doctor. Quote:

I've made a LOT of progress encouraging people to get vaccinated lately!!! Do you want to know how? I'm admitting young healthy people to the hospital with very serious COVID infections. One of the last things they do before they're intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I'm sorry, but it's too late. A few days later when I call time of death, I hug their family members and I tell them the best way to honor their loved one is to go get vaccinated and encourage everyone they know to do the same. They cry. And they tell me they didn't know. They thought it was a hoax. They thought it was political. They thought because they had a certain blood type or a certain skin color they wouldn't get as sick. They thought it was 'just the flu'. But they were wrong. And they wish they could go back. But they can't. So they thank me and they go get the vaccine. And I go back to my office, write their death note, and say a small prayer that this loss will save more lives.

As always, I am an open book. Please bring me your questions and I will tell you everything I know and everything I don't.

It's not too late, but some day it might be.

. . .

Brytney Cobia, MD

Quote from newspaper article:

“You kind of go into it [the patient's bedside] thinking, ‘Okay, I’m not going to feel bad for this person, because they make their own choice [not getting vaccinated],’” Cobia said. “But then you actually see them, you see them face to face, and it really changes your whole perspective, because they’re still just a person that thinks that they made the best decision that they could with the information that they have, and all the misinformation that’s out there.

“And now all you really see is their fear and their regret. And even though I may walk into the room thinking, ‘Okay, this is your fault, you did this to yourself,’ when I leave the room, I just see a person that’s really suffering, and that is so regretful for the choice that they made.” . . .

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I would be careful with this one. People are digging into this story, and apparently some things do not add up.