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How much time, Sam?

People here remember you saying that when you first came to this site: but then you had a hard 6 month limit for Rossi to show the goods.

I am going to try to make to 100.

So 30 years for me.

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As long as a true Rossi in love remains in love 😁

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Magician wants more views for the live stream using a pyramid scheme.

Once again an AR comment turned into a sock puppet.

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Silent Majority Guy
October 16, 2022 at 1:12 PM

Dear bloggers,

to help Leonardo reach the target of preorders for 1 million units it is useful to turn viral the view of the youtube video

https://youtu.be/tYHSR_HQwNI

To make this is not difficult if each of us makes 20 persons view it and incourage them to pass the parole so that every following viewer generates ten new viewers; see what happens:

20 persons generate 10 viewers each = 200 viewers

200 persons generate 10 each = 2000 viewers

2000 generate 10 each = 20000 viewers

20000 generate 10 each = 200000 viewers

200000 generate 10 each = 2 millions of viewers (ALLELUJAH)

The video shows a product that is extremely convincing: light basically for free, while the fees to pay energy are skyrocketing, therefore I assume that 2 milllion viewers will buy, even only for curiosity, an average of 1 Mini Ecat SKLep each.

Instead of harassing Andrea to anticipate the deliveries, which is impossible, why don’t we just help him to find 10 viewers each, inviting a pass parole to all the following steps ?

Let’s GO !

I am starting now.

Silent Majority Guy

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axil

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I don't think so, Huw still believes in the fusion myth.

At the dawn of the electrical age there was a war of the currents between Tomas Edison and George Westinghouse. Now there is a case to be made that supports Rossi as the undisputed favorite in the upcoming LENR wars.

As I see this situation, actors in the LENR community are divided into two paradigms, the most numerous camp are those who assume that fusion is the source of the energy that the reaction produces. In their marginal attempts at testing, heat seekers look to generate "excess heat" to verify their misguided beliefs and steadfast assumptions that fusion is the source that powers the LENR reaction. The other elite camp are the actors who understand that the reaction is based on the production of high energy electrons that can be captured and directly converted to form a stable output of electrical current without the production of any heat. From the system's engineering perspective, the direct electrical current producers will win decisively in the upcoming commercial wars if any "heat producers" ever get to the commercialization stage; the need for heat exchangers and turbo-generators will render LENR power from heat uncompetitive, overly complicated, grid bound, and uneconomical.

Maybe the heat producers know that the direct current producers will dominate in the commercial market. Even this fatal competitive disadvantage result in their beleive in fusion as the LENR power source is not enough to change their minds on the proper source of LENR power.

But rejecting the witness of their own eyes; Rossi is showing how he can extract direct current hour after hour, day after day, month after month, without fail or falter. Even this direct refutation of this lame brained believe in the fusion meme does not make any impression in the closed minded that only the grave can cure.

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Apparently you haven't read the lenr Induced Fission thread. Maybe that will win out?

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axil

Apparently you haven't read the lenr Induced Fission thread. Maybe that will win out?

True, fission will produce neutrons which are never seen in LENR, but fission does not produce electrons.

Most LENR experiments have produced hollow iron crenelated micro balls. How can fusion or fission do that???

Quote from Shane D.

He is a friend and (quiet) promoter of LENR. He attended ICCF24 recently and gave a well received presentation. You might want to watch it if you have not already. LENR needs more supporters like him.

I was hoping that when professional scientist made an effort to understand the causes of LENR that they would reject the fusion meme as they all have in the past, but now it seems that LENR lore has not only infected Huw but also Sabine Hossenfelder. Where has clear thinking gone? Alternate facts are hard to overcome.

I don't really get this Axil. Are you disputing that deuterium fuses to form helium in a working LENR system?

Rossi has no intention of producing product in the near future. This 1 millions delivery canard is a ploy to extract R&D funding from the people who are supporting his team. It will take many months if not years for Rossi to perfect the mini to the product stage. The only thing that will get Rossi to market is the grave when his IP can be rested from his cold dead hands.

Quote from Alan Smith

I don't really get this Axil. Are you disputing that deuterium fuses to form helium in a working LENR system?

Yes, hydrogen acts as an insulator only to produce the polaritons that are the active agent in the reaction.

Hydrogen also forms the superconductor that is the basic process that supports the reaction. When LION seeded those micro-diamonds with deuterium, the lattice compressed the hydrogen into the superconductive state. When the SEM looked into those empty tunnels that these deuterium nano particles produced, they were without any signs of the fusion reaction... long and straight with perfectly smooth walls. Looking at those tunnels completely enclosed inside the diamond makes what is going on clear. You should look at that experiment and use common sense instead of believing old propaganda.

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THHuxleynew new - Christmas has been delayed indefinitely due to the 'Special Scientific Operation' being beset by logistical problems.

BTW - I notice you have an old log-in THHuxley - do you still want to keep it?

Yes, in that I do not want somone else to take it - which would be confusing.

I am now a significant hate figure here amongst many of the newcomers. Not a status I look for, nor one I whinge about.

Thanks, THH

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I am now a significant hate figure here amongst many of the newcomers. Not a status I look for, nor one I whinge about.

You just did both.

Quote from Alan Smith

I don't really get this Axil. Are you disputing that deuterium fuses to form helium in a working LENR system?

Why are you asking Axil? You would be better off asking Miles Mathis.

Homepage for Miles Mathis science site

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Magician wants more views for the live stream using a pyramid scheme.

Once again an AR comment turned into a sock puppet.

I suggest the video watching plan be applied to Frank’s two set-up videos and to never watch the stream.

Quote from Alan Smith

You just did both.

Must be my well-known inconsistency and flakiness then

Quote from Deleo

But even people like Edison, Ford, Jobs, Musk etc

Edison and Jobs had much in common with scammers. Edison arguably did scam investors on some occasions, and infuriated them on most occasions. He often made bold claims far beyond his ability to deliver. HOWEVER, he did deliver.

Jobs was famous for denying reality and gaslighting people. He had what people called a reality distortion field.

Edison, Jobs and Musk were world-class jerks.

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How did that work out for Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos?

Theranos was not a complete scam. There were some bright people working there, who said they made interesting progress. Theranos has been presented in the mass media as a black and white case of fraud. I thought the book made it seem more nuanced.

Quote from JedRothwell

Edison, Jobs and Musk were world-class jerks.

Word says Musk still is.

Quote from Paradigmnoia

I see that they made one 350 W module, and a prototype to hold 8 of them.

Rossi ECAT has 1MW module

but clean planet has 350W module and 2.8kW for boiler with Miura and have plan to scale it up for industrial boiler application(100kW-600kW) ,

But they are hiring the engineer who has the design experience of the plant.

the strategy is not consistent.

The size of clean planet module can be larger at the glance of the picture.

ECAT use nano particles with very large surface area and chemical to emit hydrogen to prevent bulking of particle and NEDO project use composite nano metal particle with pours ceramics to prevent bulking. Thus I think nano particle can be better power generation. I am not sure of the size of their tool but size may be larger to have larger power.

ECAT include power generation and size is

They mentioned that they have partner but they are hiring engineer to have experience to design plant.

Edit by Curbina: Moved this post from another thread. nkodama , you need to be aware that the so called "1 MW ecat" was never proven to be a real product, in spite of many claims. We consider it a topic that detracts from the goals of LENR-forum so we discourage its discussion in any other place than this thread.

I agree that the plant never worked or could have worked due to the physical properties of steam.

Anyways 2.8 kW / 8 = 350 W

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Theranos has been presented in the mass media as a black and white case of fraud. I thought the book made it seem more nuanced.

I meant technical fraud. Machines that could never work. I did not follow the trial and I do not know anything about the financial fraud. Some of the technical claims were fraudulent, with fake data, or data from conventional machines. But some of the technical claims were interesting, according to people the author talked to, and according to the researchers at Theranos who did the experiments.

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Word says Musk still is.

. . . still is a jerk. That's the word on the street, is it? Huh.

The banks are probably not happy with him . . . QUOTE:

"Banks stand to lose at least $500m if they fund Elon Musk’s Twitter takeover

Several large US and international banks would lose $500m or more if they proceed with obligations to fund Elon Musk’s $44bn takeover of Twitter, according to a report on Saturday.

The banks, led by Morgan Stanley and six others, including Barclays and Bank of America, committed six months ago to raise $13bn in debt to finance Musk’s purchase – an agreement that does not hinge on whether they are able to sell the debt on to investors. . . ."

Banks stand to lose at least $500m if they fund Elon Musk’s Twitter takeover

Morgan Stanley and six others committed in April to raise $13bn in debt to finance the purchase – before a deterioration in credit markets

www.theguardian.com