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Here is one set of tracks I made on a DVD, to elaborate a bit.

A so regular signal, it could be only a military music which was emitted by your DVD i expect

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Here is one set of tracks I made on a DVD, to elaborate a bit.

Knowing the difference between a strange track and a not-so-strange track may be of some use.

Even polystyrene insulation foam can make tracks, nearly identical to the ones on the DVD above but several orders of magnitude larger, on cold plasticine. Tribology is neat stuff.

Well, you are right an surely more expert than me in this way..

Now, these tracks disturb me because i'm not able to make a link especially with Lenr.

Lenr's protaganists like sticking all strange things to justifie their field " promising years after years".

One more month after the GREAT LAST ICCF sponsorised by the great project CLEAN HME and nothing more than these tracks to be enjoyed ?

Investors left definitively...

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Knowing the difference between a strange track and a not-so-strange track may be of some use.

Even polystyrene insulation foam can make tracks, nearly identical to the ones on the DVD above but several orders of magnitude larger, on cold plasticine. Tribology is neat stuff.

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Now, these tracks disturb me because i'm not able to make a link especially with Lenr.

Jean Francoise Geneste (the director of Airbus when Airbus took a brief interest in LENR) did saw a relationship between the tracks and LENR, he made a presentation about the shape of the tracks and proposed some mathematical models for what the 3D object that caused the tracks might look like. I can’t provide a link because I saw it within a long presentation of Bob Greenyer, but I recall some of the slides presented by Geneste that had the traces shown.

Curbina

Geneste is no longer working at Airbus- he moved into Academia awhile back- but he is on Linkedin and always approachable. He might send the link. .

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Hi Paradigmnoia - when you say you "made" the tracks, what do you mean?

Please can you tell us how you made the tracks, in more detail? And can you use terms that don't produce scatological results when googled. Thanks.

Those are mechanical marks made with grains of polishing compound between two DVS, with a one DVD smoothly sliding over another. I tried a wide variety of materials as I discovered that the relative hardness was more important than total hardness.

I used foam and plasticine to model various mechanical particle morphologies, where I discovered that mechanical particles can become rolled up (or folded over on themselves) when sandwiched between two opposite moving plates. Generally flatter particles become rolled up by sticking momentarily to one of the plates, and then being peeled off with continuing counter-moving plate motion. More ductile but rounded particles can become flattened between the two plates to cause the flat morphology, leading to folding and rolling morphologies.

One-fold particles make compression tracks that are remarkable in similarity to the ones often discussed as a result of strange radiation on some materials (photos and DVDs in particular).

Imagine, if you will, flattening a small (1 cm) spherical piece of cold cookie dough under a rolling pin to make a 2.5 cm flat circle. Fold the flat piece in half. That is the shape that makes weird barrel-shaped tracks when rolled across a surface.

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Curbina

Geneste is no longer working at Airbus- he moved into Academia awhile back- but he is on Linkedin and always approachable. He might send the link. .

Yes I know Alan Smith , I follow him on LinkedIn, he also is in Researchgate. He also published a sci fi novel with LENR at the core, if I recall correctly. Anyway I was more than anything pointing out to Cydonia that many people see the relationship of the traces with LENR.

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Thanks for that.

I'm struck with the thought that we could be like the hungry hunter, following the tracks of an animal across the desert for days, who starves after discovering he has really been following tumbleweed.

I am aware of the similarity that Paradigmnoia has pointed out abundantly, but the traces have been found in plenty of substrates and experiments, and also similar patterns have been seen in cloud chambers and filmed in slow motion in a range of experiments. A fleeting phenomenon, but not for that unworthy of study.

Frogfall , I don’t think there’s a database, I am just interested in the phenomena and have read and watched plenty about it.

Bob has filmed these things in a vaccum chamber, so I doubt they were oxidation sparks, also they interact with each other so they are probably magnetic.

The cloud chamber ones were in a Russian presentation that Bob provided a translation. Bob has a hight throughout of videos so is kind of hard to find one in specific, I would have to dig to find the specific one.

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The idea that EVOs / plasmoids / FTMs / MBLs (or however we agree the phenomena should be named) are present in the gases had a quite impressive visual confirmation in one video of the so called “Thunderstorm” reactor that was recently analized by Bob Greenyer. This reactor is somewhat similar to the so called “GEET” of Paul Pantone, meaning that it uses friction, water and the temperature of the exhaust gases to be recycled to the combustion chamber and reduce fuel consumption, increasing apparent engine efficiency.

In the Thunderstorm video, you can see the EVOs “leaking” through the reactor’s wall and also going out and back in.

Well, i went at his workshop at Airbus's place some years ago.

He remained a friend on my Linkedin profile.

he is before all a great mathematician so as all mathematicians have most of the time on ly one way to see/consider things.

he believed mostly in airship new generations.

Was linked with some DE friends on Holmlid paths , things were patented on Airbus side, in this way.

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Jean Françoise Geneste (le directeur d'Airbus lorsque Airbus s'est brièvement intéressé au LENR) a bien vu une relation entre les voies et le LENR, il a fait une présentation sur la forme des voies et a proposé quelques modèles mathématiques de ce que représente l'objet 3D qui a provoqué le les pistes pourraient ressembler. Je ne peux pas fournir de lien car je l'ai vu dans une longue présentation de Bob Greenyer, mais je me souviens de certaines des diapositives présentées par Geneste qui montraient les traces.