Posts by Roseland67

Quote from JedRothwell

As I expected, the Trump administration had essentially no plans to roll out the vaccine. They had no other plans to deal with COVID-19, so this is not surprising. They ditched all earlier plans last April, leaving it up to the states to deal with the pandemic. See:

How Jared Kushner’s Secret Testing Plan “Went Poof Into Thin Air”

https://www.vanityfair.com/new…n-went-poof-into-thin-air

It was not that they had insufficient plans for the roll-out. They had no plans at all. They did not even know how many doses were available. See:

Biden inheriting nonexistent coronavirus vaccine distribution plan and must start 'from scratch,' sources say

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21…cination-trump/index.html

[There was] . . . a complete lack of a vaccine distribution strategy under former President Donald Trump, even weeks after multiple vaccines were approved for use in the United States.

"There is nothing for us to rework. We are going to have to build everything from scratch," one source said.

White House Covid coordinator Jeff Zients told reporters on Wednesday that he was still confident that the administration can meet its 100 million vaccine shots in 100 days target.

"For almost a year now, Americans could not look to the federal government for any strategy, let alone a comprehensive approach to respond to Covid," Zients said. "And we've seen the tragic costs of that failure. As President Biden steps into office today ... that'll change tomorrow."

Other details:

‘Worse Than We Imagined’: Team Trump Left Biden a COVID Nightmare

https://www.thedailybeast.com/…iden-a-covid-19-nightmare

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The Covid -19 epidemic is 100% the fault of Donald Trump and “Group Think Red”?

This is what you want to say and what you desperately want to believe Jed, so just come out and say it.

Quote from Fm1

So if I were to refer to myself as an expert on covid I get the beach house?

Hmmmm....🤔

That’s what the media does

Quote from JedRothwell

First, experts never know everything. But, the experts in this subject know a whole library full of stuff that most people do not know. How else do you think they managed to develop the vaccines? By trial and error? With an Ouija Board? They did it with science. That's s-c-i-e-n-c-e, meaning they understand how nature works, and how viruses work, and so on. Also, they have many wonderful gadgets that tell them what is happening, such as the machines that sequenced the DNA of the virus within days of the outbreak. How can you possibly maintain that people who have the complete genome, and who know how genomes work, are not experts? What the hell are you thinking? Try comparing them to doctors and researchers in 1918. This is a lot like saying that the people who send robot explorers to Mars are not rocket scientists. What else would they be?

Second, I am sure there are experts who have a good idea why some people are asymptomatic, but others require O2. They may not always be right, but they can probably predict the prognosis for many patients.

While waiting for surgery last spring, I eavesdropped on doctors and nurses discussing COVID-19. They knew WAY, WAY MORE than the self-appointed genius experts here.

Well, the “experts” that you often quote seem to know everything.

There is, (are), no experts in Covid 19 Jed.

They are regular professionals tasked with learning something new about an as yet

Undefined and mutating virus.

They are certainly more knowledgeable than you and I, but I will bet the beach house that not 1 person globally would count themselves an “expert” on Covid 19.

Quote from JedRothwell

Of course there are experts. Do you think the vaccine fell out of the sky? Do you think the case mortality rate fell from 6% to 2% on its own, by coincidence? There were experts in virology and the coronavirus specifically before this outbreak. Unfortunately, they were mostly ignored by government leaders and by the public in the U.S. In countries where the public listened to them, the infection and death rates are 10 to 100 times lower than the U.S.

Of course there are no experts on Covid 19.

If there were, we would KNOW why some people are asymptotic and why some are not.

Why some require immediate O2 for days and some never go to the hospital.

What some die and others don’t.

Why China, a country 4x the population of the US has almost 90x LESS infections.

What some people get infected again and why some don’t.

What’s different about all of these?

No one knows why, because we don’t have enough data and it hasn’t been analyzed and correlated thoroughly

We’re getting smarter, no doubt, but experts?

Please stop..

Quote from Fm1

World Braces for Surge of Coronavirus Variants

https://news.google.com/articl…=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

The more contagious coronavirus variant discovered in Britain has now been detected in more than 50 countries, including Argentina on Saturday, and is believed to be driving surges in at least two.

But how widely that version of the virus has actually spread — and whether it could already be a factor in other countries’ surges — may not be clear for some time, because the necessary genomic testing remains rare. And at least three other troubling variants are spreading less widely, according to available data: one identified in South Africa and two in Brazil.

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FM,

Have any these new strains been determined to be any more or any less deadly?

More infectious, but hopefully less deadly?

Kinda like the Andromeda Strain,

as it mutated to a non infectious form?

Quote from ZenoOfElea

When people say about Covid-19 “there are no experts” it is a very glib phrase.

So what does this mean?

Does it mean that we do not have persons who know everything about Covid-19?

Obviously not because no expert knows everything about any topic.

There are scientists who spend their whole careers studying one species of plant or animal yet do not know “everything”.

So an “expert” does not have to know everything but clearly needs to be a leader in knowledge within their area.

Covid-19 is a “new” virus so there is much learning to be done.

But it is not the case that we know nothing.

Clearly we have experts in virology, pandemics, epidemiology and various areas of medicine, including experts who specialise in the study of Corona viruses.

Additionally scientists were able to get data on the new virus, including genetic analyses, remarkably quickly.

As we are seeing, with each new strain there is more science and learning that needs to be done, but that does not mean “there are no experts” for the new strain. There will very quickly be scientists who know more than other scientists and it is then their job to disseminate that information.

The problem is when people glibly say “there are no experts” then perceptually it flattens the playing field so that any flaky scientist or fringe theory can be put on the same level as data and opinion from more authoritative sources.

That is also not to say that said authoritative sources cannot be wrong and should not be pressed for supporting evidence.

We are now a year or so into this pandemic and there is masses of science and data. Arguably the biggest problem at the moment is to sift the quality from the dross and the facts from the garbage.

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That’s NOT what I meant and I think you know it.

The “playing field” is filled with people doing research, but only the people that support Jeds agenda are “experts”.

“IF”,

People doing research on existing approved medications that have been cleared for other ailments are found to be effective when treating Covid 19, they are “flaky scientists”?

No, of course not, these experiments must be carried out using the scientific method, and approved medical protocols and procedures.

Then, if found effective, should be considered as treatments

However, the bureaucracy that is Government

moving at its typical glacial pace, only considers treatments that meet their agenda.

Quote from JedRothwell

Ah, you took that out of context, and cut out the next sentence, to make it look like the opposite of what I said. Great job! You should go work for the Chinese Communist party. Here is the next line:

"Okay, maybe they don't actually want that, but they would rather see that happen than admit they are wrong, and that home remedies do not work, and medical science does work."

As would you Jed.

You say “home remedies” as if it’s granny from the Beverly Hillbillies, cooking up a batch of Opossum stew.

We are going to learn more and more about this disease every day, there are no experts,

None, please stop quoting experts.

Quote from barty

What a time. So many of us were naive. Now we know better.

That's the good think. People can learn and improve.

BTW: Watching at the comment activity on Frank's recent blog posts, it looks like the site is slowly dying too?

Most intelligent people have been either banned or moderated into the ether.

RossI is a charlatan, his believers will believe,

They must, they have been told to.

Quote from Navid

Shane, you have no idea who you are dealing with.

People who weoponize your emotions, or invert reality and then amplify it, or makes groups and force you to choose which one you are in, or suggest their solutions are sacred and going against them is profane and immoral -- these people are not merely speaking to make a point. They are trying to destroy you, your thought, and induce dissonance in your spirit.

Example: "they want to keep schools closed", "they want to keep us mired in fear", they are " a death cult"

Watch out. It is easy to spot once you know that it exists. As for who, what, where, when, why -- Wyttenbach's take would be great, but I understand Switzerland is home to much of the source code...

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Jed never switched to decaf

Quote from Fm1

Influenza drug enisamium a potential COVID-19 treatment

https://news.google.com/articl…=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Researchers in Europe and the United States have demonstrated the potential of the influenza drug enisamium as a treatment for infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) – the agent that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).

Aartjan te Velthuis from the University of Cambridge in the UK and colleagues showed that enisamium prevented SARS-CoV-2 replication in human cell lines and stopped viral RNA synthesis in vitro.

Furthermore, in a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled trial of adults hospitalized with COVID-19, enisamium significantly reduced recovery time among patients who required supplementary oxygen.

The drug is already clinically approved for use against influenza in eleven different countries. Furthermore, enisamium does not require intravenous administration and could be used outside of the hospital setting.

Treat early, treat often and treat all!

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So.......

It will probably be shelved in place of the vaccine?

Quote from Fm1

That's if you believe china, if so I have a bridge you might be interested in.

Exactly,

Either China is “massaging” their #’s, OR,

conspiracy theorists unite.

This virus was manufactured and purpose built to “see what happens”.

If the results are satisfactory, when China is ready to expand in the east to Taiwan, North & South Korea and Japan, they take the virus out of hibernation, dump it at navy, Air Force and army bases globally and away they go.

Who’s gonna stop em.

Quote from Fm1

More than 90,000 Americans could die of Covid-19 in next three weeks, CDC forecast shows

https://news.google.com/articl…=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

CNN)More than 38,000 Americans have died of Covid-19 in the first two weeks of the new year.

Another 92,000 are projected to die from the virus over roughly the next three weeks, according to an ensemble forecast published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The numbers are scary and reflect what public health experts have repeatedly warned: While the end is in sight -- with the help of ongoing Covid-19 vaccinations -- the nation is still facing challenging times ahead.

Those 90,000 projected deaths could be avoided with early treatment but hey the end is in sight, ya for all those patients in ICU.

Treat early, treat often and treat all

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“IF”,

More than 90,000 Americans die in the next 3 weeks than the US will have ~ 100 times more deaths than mainland China?

Someone got some “splaining” to do Lucy.

Quote from JedRothwell

They do immunize the patient. All vaccines do; otherwise they would not work. You can still be infected, but that is 20 times less likely. If you get it, you might transmit the virus, but if you are not infected, you will not transmit the virus.

If most people get it, the total number of infections will fall so much that the virus will probably die out.

I dunno Jed,

If I’m immunized, I kind think I can’t get the virus again because I’m “immunized”, and if I get the virus again, I wasn’t immunized was I?

Quote from RobertBryant

I'd like the FDA or any government org.. to publish the full postiive data for the experimental Covid vaccines.. if available

for example the effectiveness of the vaccine in the octogenarian age group

When Jed says 'even when their data says the drug doesn't work

he is fudging ... which drug Jed??? ivermectin?? be specific please.. Remdesivir?

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Robert,

Do you consider these new Covid-19 drugs “vaccines”?

They don’t immunize anyone, and once “immunized”, you can still get and transmit this virus.

I don’t know, appears to be more like a band-aid than a vaccine, no?

Seems to me this is more like Theraflu in that it can severely lessen the effects of the virus and greatly reduce the probability of ending up in the hospital and dying.

Both good reasons to be sure, but a vaccine?

Quote from Fm1

The immune system and COVID: It’s still confusing

https://news.google.com/articl…=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

It's clear that the immune system can mount a robust response to SARS-CoV-2, as the vaccine trials have made clear. Beyond that, though, there are a lot of question marks. People exposed to the virus don't always produce much in the way of antibodies to it, and there have been a number of cases of reinfection. We're not sure how long immunity lasts or whether it correlates with antibody levels or something else–there hasn't even been great evidence that antibodies are helpful.

To give some sense of the challenge of sorting all of this out, we're going to look at three recently published papers that get at the interplay between the immune system and COVID-19. One finally provides some evidence that antibodies might be protective, another indicates that tamping down the inflammatory response might help, while the third suggests that immunosuppressives don't affect disease outcomes at all.

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FM,

Are these “re-infection” cases with the original virus, or are these people getting

re-infected with a mutation of Covid - 19?

Quote from Shane D.

Lots of experts say it does work. Should we ignore their consensus...especially when they have 253 positive studies to back them up?

Whatever side of the issue one is on, all seem now to agree now that HCQ is safe to use. I don't know about you, but IMO when a drug is safe, a large percentage of studies show it effective, and the world is experiencing a deadly pandemic with no other official early treatment available, the medical establishment/government health care bureaucracies should give their blessing and step aside.

That said...Ivermectin looks to be more effective, so everyone is rallying behind it now to get it approved.

Shane,

You should know by now that the only “expert”

Opinions that count are the ones that support Jeds argument.

If they don’t support his opinion they are labeled, charlatans, quacks, faith healers etc

and dismissed.

He is hopelessly programmed, you are wasting your time

Quote from Mark U

Don't feel bad, at least you're not banned from Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and selling Make Cold Fusion Great Again hats on Shopify.

Nice Mark

Quote from Curbina

Measuring heat with enough accuracy would be better served without the need of boiling anything, and a pool would be a nightmare from the temperature homogenization point of view. A single temperature rise between two set temperatures of a reasonably sized volume of water with an appropriate mixing would be much better for accuracy.

Curbina,

Correct, It would not be accurate, HOWEVER, if the “E whatever”, did in fact boil an entire swimming pool of water we would then KNOW

that it develops Energy Out > Energy In.

Andrea gets funding, research, scientific, engineering, manufacturing assistance because we KNOW it works.

Now he gets squadusch (Chicago slang for 0),

because we KNOW it does not work.

Quote from Mark U

This is what I eagerly await. There is, increasingly, less and less room for ambiguity. The demo will presumably involve measuring Ecat SLK electrical output instead of heat measurement, the latter being fraught with all manner of trouble as we know. What could go wrong with simply measuring electrical input and output?

Go Andrea!

There is no trouble with measuring heat Mark.

Simply use heat from the Ecat to boil and evaporate a swimming pool full of water.

There is no doubt then that the EcAt is producing heat in quantities to eliminate and chemical inclusion.

Measure, (CORRECTLY, this will be a problem for Rossi), the amount of power and energy (heat), the Ecat is consuming.

Calculate the amount of heat required to boil the pool of water.

It is beyond simple to prove

Quote from Alan Fletcher

Note that Rossi handed over the ecat to the "independent team". He may have been around, he may have helped tehm ... but any/all of them should have double/triple/quadruple checked the system.

They are all (maybe except Levi) excellent professors and theoretical scientists.

But NONE of the team are experimental scientists. They did call in help for the IR aspects: they SHOULD have called in a electrical engineer for the power end. (Ditto and likewise for ALL the tests ... RMS etc etc)

So it's incompetence (and hubris), not fraud.

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Unless is was purposely done