Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion


  • OK AA, let me try to help you parse this post by Rossi to twist it into your predetermined conclusion that Rossi is not a liar.


    1- the robotized line to produce the E-Cats is already in production

    Even though Rossi claimed that he had a final production-ready product in 2011, a robotized line in production in 2012 AND a product undergoing certification in 2012, and even though AA commented at the time that not having said product would be evidence that Rossi is a liar, AA can counter by babbling in his snarky way that making this observation merely points out the "extreme ignorance of engineering and manufacturing" of the observer. Then follow with "It would never occur to you [walllowing ignoramous] that the facts on the ground might change his plans." See? Simple. So there.


    2- the programs of the robots will be adjusted as soon as we will have the requirements from the certificators

    Here we have even more support for the "change of plans" meme. Because Rossi, the engineering genius (who has stated unequivocally to the Florida Board of Professional Engineers that he is not an engineer, has never done any engineering personally, and has never offered any engineering services), will simply "adjust the programs of the robots" to accommodate any certificator-induced change requirements (in the robotic line that AA insists Rossi never said existed).


    3- we already got the green light from all the competent Authorities, so far the certifications are in course.

    This one is easy. Although Rossi already had the green light from all the "competent Authorities", this leaves room for the possibility that Rossi did NOT have the green light from the incompetent Authorities. Thus, it was most likely that the reason there never was any production E-Cat product, nor any evidence of any robotized line or factory or certificates, or certificate applications, despite Rossi's claim that he had a production-ready product, factory, and robotic line, this seeming contradiction can be explained by the possibility that Rossi got the red light from "incompetent Authorities". Since we have no evidence to deny that incompetent Authorities prevented Rossi from producing his product and also may be responsible for causing the factory and it's robotized line to disappear, we cannot be certain that Rossi was lying.


    I'm finally starting to see AA's perspective. And if you don't think this is a reasonable explanation, you're all a bunch of babblers. So there.


  • I think I figured out Rossi's problem - his certificators are robots.

  • sigmoidal

    So maybe Rossi had a couple of transfer robots. So what? It doesn't add u to an automated factory.


    As you have so much trouble understanding sentences I will repeat this one

    I don't consider anything about the SK or its production is yet proven, but they are certain that it doesn't even exist based on non existent

    What little evidence there is suggests that the SK exists and works.

  • Show me an actual Rossi quote where he has ever said he has has a working robotic factor....You have no evidence that is a lie.

    Andrea Rossi March 23, 2012 at 8:13 PM: "The robotized line to produce the E-Cats is already in production"

    Rossi in 2011.. "we already got industrial manufacturing underway and the e-cat is a ready product for the market"

    Quote

    Adrian Ashfield comment in 2012: "To do anything with UL you have to have the final working prototype for them to test. So either Rossi does have something or it would be proof of lying."

    What little evidence there is suggests that the SK exists and works.


    Versus the mountain of evidence that Rossi is simply a liar, based on your own criteria, but also on court documents, Rossi's own testimony, absurd and self-contradictory "performance data", etc.

    Dec 21, 2018: These days it is always good for a laugh to see the babblers wallowing around in their sea of erroneous facts.


    Adrian Ashfield We "babblers" have facts, but they don't count because you've declared them to be erroneous (without basis or explanation). And we're "babblers", because you said we are, which also impeaches our credibility.


    Have I got your reasoning correct?


    (Just checking to make sure I've accurately estimated the depth of your argument)

    1. Italo R. December 21, 2018 at 6:40 AM

      Dear Dr. Rossi,

      The first month of operation of the heating system in the customer’s factory has passed.

      1 – Is it still running?

      2 – Did everything go well?

      3 – Did you find that the results were those expected?

      4 – Could we know the COP value during the demonstration?

      Sincerely,

      Italo R.

    2. Andrea Rossi December 21, 2018 at 11:54 AM

      Italo R.:

      1- yes

      2- yes

      3- yes

      4- we will talk about this issue during the presentation of January 31st

      Warm Regards,

      A.R.

  • A better parody...

    1. Hunter December 22, 2018 at 6:41 AM
    2. Dear Dr. Rossi,

      The first month of operation of the heating system in the alleged customer’s factory has passed.

      1 – Is it still running using only the usual electric heater?

      2 – Did everything go well, the Customer is bamboozled enough?

      3 – Did you find that the results were those expected (the expected cost of consumed electric energy)?

      4 – Could we know why the COP value is always less than or equal to 1?

      Sincerely,

      Hunter.

    3. Andrea Rossi December 22, 2018 at 11:55 AM

      Hunter:

      1- yes

      2- yes

      3- yes

      4- we will talk about this issue during the presentation of January 31st

      Warm COP-one Regards,

      A.R.

  • What little evidence there is suggests that the SK exists and works.

    Versus the mountain of evidence that Rossi is simply a liar,

    Rossi will be demonstrating the SK in a month. You suggest it is a lie. What do you suppose he will show? A cardboard model? Perhaps you are sure there will be no demo?


    He says he will show it working together with measurements to give the COP. You have NO evidence that this will not happen.

    The only thing the babblers have to offer is that based on an ear unrelated lie, every thing Rossi now claims in vapor ware.

    Whether that is so or not is a pointless, time wasting argument without evidence that I'm not interested in pursuing.

  • You don't think demos provide evidence? LOL

    Adrian,

    Evidence of Energy Out > Energy In? No,

    And neither do you so stop it.


    This “demo” or whatever he calls it, will be a duplicate of the last “demos”.

    A pathetic, non scientific, sleight of hand, believe whatever you want to believe sham, BUT, it will NOT provide evidence of above.

    1. Italo R. December 21, 2018 at 6:40 AM

      Dear Dr. Rossi,

      The first month of operation of the heating system in the customer’s factory has passed.

      1 – Is the COP greater than 10,000

      2 – Does the e-cat also make espresso for the customer?

      3 – Is the customer one of the ten largest multinational corporations in the world?

      4 – Do you think the e-cat will cause world upheaval or world peace by the end of 2019?

      Sincerely,

      Italo R.

    2. Andrea Rossi December 21, 2018 at 11:54 AM

      Italo R.:

      1- yes

      2- yes

      3- yes

      4- we will talk about this issue during the presentation of January 31st

      Warm Regards,

      A.R.

  • Yeah, but facts like this don't count in AA's world. After all, unless it is a statement that supports AA's point of view, it is fake facts or fake statements. I expect AA to explain this away by "clarifying" that what Rossi meant when he said "roboticized line" was not a really production line operated by robots, but something much simpler and that any confusion is due to language issues.

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  • Adrian,

    This “demo” or whatever he calls it, will be a duplicate of the last “demos”.

    A pathetic, non scientific, sleight of hand, believe whatever you want to believe sham, BUT, it will NOT provide evidence of above.

    and no “costumer-confirmation”:

    1. Frank Acland December 22, 2018 at 4:50 PM

      Dear Andrea,

      At the January 31st demonstration, will you be naming the customer that is currently using you 27kW E-Cat heater?

      Many thanks,

      Frank Acland

    2. Andrea Rossi December 22, 2018 at 5:53 PM

      Frank Acland

      No. Hw wants not to be harassed.

      Warm Regards,

      A.R.

  • Because the customer story is a the usual hoax in order to excite his supporters.

    Rossi tries hard to keep his (remaining) supporters loyal, e.g by stupid name-giving contests on his blog.


    Now he asks the cultists to find for their guru a name for the e-cat SK remote control software (pretending that such a thing would really exists).


    I would suggest to call this E-CRAP for E-Cat Ridiculous Affectation Program.

  • Rossi is very reliable in being disappointing ...


    AA: since all is panning out with the customer and the next stage show as skeptics predicted, could you tell us:


    What do you see as proof Rossi is something more than smoke and mirrors|?


    Your current position, I believe, is that smoke and mirrors are entirely consistent with all evidence, but that also his (for the first time in his business life) actually having the goods he has promised is also consistent with this.


    Ok - that is an eccentric reading of the available evidence documented here, and requires you not to delve too closely into the Court proceedings, but fair enough.


    Could you tell us what would constitute, for you, evidence that Rossi actually has some working product? And when you'd expect to get this?


    Perhaps you can also illuminate us: when have there previously been exciting new disruptive technologies promoted by an inventor on his blog and at (privately arranged) conferences, used successfully by commercial entities, where the world's press ignores it and there is no actual evidence that the technology exists?

  • Like and Rossi was there ... who will tell ... Sicily, Katani, 2007, October ... a working meeting in the sheraton !!!






    Нефть - это кровь планеты, надо сделать модель планеты и мы получим генератор Тарасенко, эта энергия покорит вселенную! :lenr:

  • Rossi tries hard to keep his (remaining) supporters loyal, e.g by stupid name-giving contests on his blog.


    Now he asks the cultists to find for their guru a name for the e-cat SK remote control software (pretending that such a thing would really exists).


    I would suggest to call this E-CRAP for E-Cat Ridiculous Affectation Program.

    ECat SK was my entry that that Rossi picked, so trying hard to win the honour of the software

    name also.


    1. Sam December 22, 2018 at 2:31 PM

      Hello Dr Rossi

      I said my last entry was my last but it will

      have to be my second from last entry if

      you don’t mind.

    2. ECat Rossi Effect Command Software.


    3. If anyone thinks I am trying hard to win the

      contest they are right.Some stiff competition.

      Regards

      Sam

    4. Andrea Rossi December 22, 2018 at 5:57 PM

      Sam:

      Thank you for your welcome last suggestion. The decision will be made on January 31st during the direct streaming and anybody can add further suggestions.

      Warm Regards,

      A.R.

  • You don't think demos provide evidence? LOL


    I think we can all agree that Rossi's demos provide evidence.


    When closely scrutinized, Rossi's demos have consistently provided evidence that he is a lying fraudulent con man, including Petroldragon, thermo-electric devices, and several iterations of E-Cats.


    It seems that your inability to see Rossi's obvious fraud goes much deeper than mere macular degeneration.


    Based on past evidence, there is strong reason to suspect that Rossi's January demo will be another "masterpiece" of Rossi fraud.


    Given Rossi's legacy of fraudulent demos, what evidence can you provide that his next demo will not be another hoax?

  • I was not aware that Rossi was convicted for anything Else than a tax fraud?


    Did I miss something?


    Anyhow, as I said earlier ;


    "One might question the motivation of Rossi to continue his work, since he now is getting old and have health issues.


    I mean, If it all was a scam why did he not just take the 20 million or wathever sum and settle down some sunny place with a drink and a pool?


    I suspect he himself believe he is onto something, but may be he is being tricked.....by himself... 😜?

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