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Covid-1984 vaccines

The moment they try to force it on us, THAT'S when we have a problem.

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Which absolutely no one, anywhere, is doing. The moment they try to force you to eat babies would also be dire, but that is not happening either. Why are you so concerned about imaginary problems and things which will never happen?

Huh? Replace "try to force it on" with "coerce".

"Coercion is the practice of forcing another party to act in an involuntary manner by use of threats or force."

Coercion is rampant across the globe. It's often done in the name of some supposed greater good.

If a state says your kid must be vaccinated to attend public school, that is a form of coercion to be vaccinated.

This is one reason why people are fleeing certain democrat run states, to flee this kind of coercion.

The LA school board has said that when a Covid vaccine is available to students, students must be vaccinated to attend.

More coercion.

In the summer of 2020, the Department of Public Health in Massachusetts decided that all students in school, including college, must be vaccinated against the flu by December of 2020 in order to continue to attend school. More coercion. Thankfully the group ICAN brought a lawsuit against the DPH and they have postponed the requirement.

Given the current growing authoritarianism across the globe, in the name of public safety, who knows what's next?

How about the woman in Finland who was in her cottage when authorities came in, handcuffed her in front of her child, took her to a hospital, and while still outside the hospital forcibly held her head and pinned her body against the police car while they swabbed her nose for a PCR test before they took her inside the hospital where she is now forcibly detained.

Wake up, or go back to sleep, your choice.

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Nach Impfung: Zahl der Sterbefälle in Altenheimen explodiert

Wie gesagt: Die Pfizerimpfung verdoppelt in den 2 Wochen nach dem Pieks die Wahrscheinlichkeit CoV-19 zu kriegen. Wer sich nach der Impfung ansteckt ist besonders gefährdet!

COVID = MASS MURDER/GENOCIDE (and I can PROVE it) The next step in the Fourth Reich/s program of euthanasie is NUCLEAR WAR! HA HA HA as EIBSTIEN oncw said&&&&&&&&

I am now working undercover with the US F.B.I and the RUSSIAN FEDS against the CIA bastards who are backing this NAZI COVID conspiracy. Meanwhile keep taking the ANTI-Bat. Much safer and better than any vaccine. BUT take the vaccine to keep the GESTAPO (TORIES and DEMOCRATS) off your backs. DOMINIS CUMMINGS is behind all this in the UK and is still operational behind the scenes. He is on my primary Hit List.....but BORIS is innocenti!

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I have decided to start this thread as a place where I will develop conceptually and methodologically what I hope will become a small project for performing a series of experiments aimed to verify in an unambiguous and accurate way the validity of claims of elemental transmutation observed under conditions in which cavitation has been generated in aqueous media.

This idea has evolved as a result of the deep interest and inspiration that I have acquired through the reports and recent visit of a team belonging to the MFMP to the facilities of Japanese Dr. Ryushin Ohmasa, and since that moment, the analysis I have been doing of his patent applications and reported technical results of elemental transmutation of simple salt solutions (of Mg, Ca, Cu and Cs) prepared with a 5% in weight of D2O and submitted to low frequency (50-200 Hz) vibration by means of a seemingly simple mechanical device of Dr. Ohmasa's invention, which is basically a reciprocating motor attached to two vertical rods to which in turn an array of metallic fins of stainless steel (that in some of the embodiments are plated with palladium and/or plantinum).

They say a picture is better than a thousand words so here I link to some videos of Ohmasa's vibration equipment and ongoing transmutations experiments (he also uses it for water electrolysis with very interesting results, but that is not the focus of my attention within this thread).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAlhKaWWzLM

And here is a video of the complexity hidden within the simplicity of the experiments they perform with the vibratory apparatus (slow motion video of the vibratory fins submerged in a CuCl solution)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQAt0igDy4Y

A video of the ending of a CuCl vibration experiment (with a remarkable change of colour of the solution in a lapse of 3 hours as evidenced by the samples taken at preset time intervals)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYd_0o7j13g

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As the reactor of Dr. Ohmasa has a significant price (I have been told one of his vibration units sells for 17000 british pounds), and my intention is to perform an independent validation of this kind of effects, and the vibration equipment is basically creating a intense turbulence and cavitation within the aqueous solution, I decided that my replication, in absolute need of being low cost, should find a different way to generate a similar effect in the water. A very efficient way to create cavitation is by means of ultrasound.

Not sure if anyone had ever reported transmutations in aqueous phase with the use of ultrasound in the formal literature, a cursory search in Google Scholar quickly yielded some interesting results, most notably from Dr. Cardone, who measured the appearance of an atificial Europium isotope by direct measuring through ICP MS in a vial of water submitted to ultrasonic cavitation. One chapter of a book written by Drs. Cardone and Mignani is properly titled "Piezonuclear Reactions in Cavitated Water". I will not upload here in order to avoid Copyright problems, but is very informative, but they also published a review in 2012 titled "Piezonuclear Reactions" that delves extensively in the observations of nuclear transmutation in diverse media, water and aqueous solutions included.

One of the things that I instantly detected in Dr. Cardone's publication was his attention and intention to detect "nuclear signatures" as radiactivity and neutrons. This contrasts heavily with the absolute absence of radiacivity and any concern about neutrons by Dr. Ohmasa.

Now, I have to clarify that my current understanding of these phenomena makes me lean towards the idea that LENT happening in this kind of situations is related to the behaviour of electrons rather than any classical nuclear reaction. This is highly speculative, and at odds with current mainstream knowledge, and I am aware of that so please refrain from pointing it out and mocking me for my ignorance, and allow me to continue exposing the sequence of ideas.

The interaction of water within a cavitation events rich environment in this context, is increasingly being thought to have an effect in the arrangement of water molecules, and this arrangement is related to the clustering of the electrons of these molecules. In that sense, we would be in the presence of similar structures to those proposed by Kenneth Shoulders, but generated in an aqueous media and capable of remaining stable in this environment and also to interact with dissolved ions in this solution.

If one focuses experiments with this later background idea, shifting from the old focus in the "brute force" effect of the cavitation that might create conditions to "break the Coulomb barrier" to cause nuclei to interact, one can device experiments that are focused in enhancing cavitation and formation of these water clusters, and forget about the nuclear fussion but see the effect of these electron clusters when interacting with nucleus.

This is what I intend to do, and in the following weeks I will be developing here an experimental protocol with the much demanded control experiment to compare, and submit it to your collective criticism in order to enhance it, within the brevity of the resources I have at my disposal, and later to execute it with the aid of a friend researcher of the city where I live, with the help of undergrad university students, and with the outcome to be made into a paper to be submitted to JMCS for consideration.

Your input and valid criticism is welcome.

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The NTP dreams of creating liquid terminators, and a bunch of other nonsense, for which it is ready to pour in funds, by all means received from consumers of goods and services. And apparently the NTP rulers turned off their brains long ago and do not want to think, or the rulers are money-changers, people with no brains - and I would not like to keep up with them, let alone live by their bidding - certainly not. Why money-launderers? Because they are not even businessmen like they say they are, to have anything to do with the production of hi-tech goods and products you need to understand a lot about them. In order to understand a lot, you need to understand where it all comes from and how and at what price it all came and by whom. The money-launderers do not understand a thing, they just keep beating their chests that they are the ones to decide everything. Moneygrubbers - without understanding in physics write-'does not happen', 'can not' be', and it is clear why - because they cannot count - they can take and all, but take, someone who knows how to count anything correctly in the physical reality will say - 'does not exhibit properties' against the above expressions. But that is not what we are talking about here. Why are the money-grubbers? Because I do not plunge into business forums with their ideas to apply them to the very essence of business, its restructuring, I do not like to mix flies with cutlets - there is a business, it has its own nuances, there is NTP - there are nuances. NTP is very voracious, and specialists want to live not worse than businessmen, and they have the right to do so, while the founders of anything in the NTP also want to have their own business, and they are smart enough to do it, unlike the statements of money-launderers. Moneygrubbers, they go to portals with statements, I will not point fingers that they will decide here, as they decide everywhere else, but the key word in that expression is 'not trying to understand anything and for no reason'. I was just voicing a fact. That's not the point.

In recent posts about physical phenomena, or purely mathematical phenomena, people have been noted with 'no way' expressions - these people don't have the necessary attributes to judge the quality of the material. Yes, maybe it's the wrong portal, but on those portals - the same bamboos, only there are much more of them, and 'graze' there in herds, and on occasion from them can not throw sticks - there their domain and there are many. That's why I kind of have an easier life here, because it's their fiefdom and they're willing to troll with the words 'no such thing' all day long, when they don't have as much time here. Maybe I'm bamboozled about something too, but when I'm bamboozled about something, I don't go there to solve everything and claim greatness. Knowing how many herd bamboos there are, I felt it necessary to clarify a bit the material about the piston-jet system which I found over a year ago (I don't even look when I started the search, but it has been a year for sure).

Mizuno isn't a scam ? Glad to hear it, Mister clean.

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Cela ne fait que renforcer mon article précédent selon lequel l'arnaque des énergies renouvelables ne fait rien de plus que de cannibaliser l'infrastructure énergétique existante. C'est le nouveau scandale Enron / Sub-prime pour le 21e siècle qui les fait ressembler à un jeu d'enfant. Cacher la cannibalisation dans de fausses hypothèses dans les calculs du LCOE est le truc sympa qu'ils jouent pour faire tourner les chances en faveur de la maison.

Huh?

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Huh? Replace "try to force it on" with "coerce".

"Coercion is the practice of forcing another party to act in an involuntary manner by use of threats or force."

Coercion is rampant across the globe. It's often done in the name of some supposed greater good.

Well, in the U.S. there is not a single instance of anyone being coerced into taking the COVID-19 vaccine. There has not been any, and there won't be any. There is no need. If you don't get vaccinated, you will probably be part of the group that is infected. Between the two groups we will reach herd immunity, and the epidemic will end, as it did in 1918. It is contagious enough to ensure that. So, if you don't want to get vaccinated, you are welcome to get sick or die. It will be your own damn fault.

It is in the greater good if your health and your life are of any importance to the community. If your death means nothing, then it is not to the greater good. Herd immunity is definitely to the greater good, but we will get that either way, whichever role you choose to play -- as a sane person who gets vaccinated, or an idiot who gets sick or dies for no reason.

Wearing a mask is definitely for the greater good. If you want to kill yourself, that's your business, but you need to wear a mask to keep from killing others.

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If you want to kill yourself, that's your business,

Thanks! So far >1000 directly killed by vaccine . Some more thousands by vaccine induced CoV-19.

If you have Ivermectin, then using a vaccine is plain stupidity.

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Well, in the U.S. there is not a single instance of anyone being coerced into taking the COVID-19 vaccine. There has not been any, and there won't be any. There is no need. If you don't get vaccinated, you will probably be part of the group that is infected. Between the two groups we will reach herd immunity, and the epidemic will end, as it did in 1918. It is contagious enough to ensure that. So, if you don't want to get vaccinated, you are welcome to get sick or die. It will be your own damn fault.

It is in the greater good if your health and your life are of any importance to the community. If your death means nothing, then it is not to the greater good. Herd immunity is definitely to the greater good, but we will get that either way, whichever role you choose to play -- as a sane person who gets vaccinated, or an idiot who gets sick or dies for no reason.

Wearing a mask is definitely for the greater good. If you want to kill yourself, that's your business, but you need to wear a mask to keep from killing others.

No coercion in the United States? Have you read or watched the news? Shaming is coercion and your opinion on herd immunity is not shared by the NIH as they have advised survivors of covid to still get vaccinated. Again shaming the preciously infected to take a jab. COERCION!!!

Could you show your numbers? Exactly what is your source for this? My research couldn't pull up anything.

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Thanks! So far >1000 directly killed by vaccine . Some more thousands by vaccine induced CoV-19.

If you have Ivermectin, then using a vaccine is plain stupidity.

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Could you show your numbers? Exactly what is your source for this? My research couldn't pull up anything.

Go to the CDC vaccine damage page or the vaccine report sites.

Of course Pfizer reports and anything you read in journals is just vaccination promotion news. CDC claims e.g. that the Pfizer vaccine is about 85..89% see post in covid-19 thread.

The problem is unfortunately that you cannot find reliable sources that somehow confirm the statement: "So far >1000 directly killed by vaccine".

As with all vaccines there are for sure coincidences in time with severe side effects incl. deaths, that may suggest, there could be a direct link. But what is or could be the direct link? A weakened immune system? System is too busy with other internal processes ( to speak from a technical perspective) and cannot deal with a real infection anymore?...or...or..

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The problem is unfortunately that you cannot find reliable sources that somehow confirm the statement: "So far >1000 directly killed by vaccine".

As with all vaccines there are for sure coincidences in time with severe side effects incl. deaths, that may suggest, there could be a direct link. But what is or could be the direct link? A weakened immune system? System is too busy with other internal processes ( to speak from a technical perspective) and cannot deal with a real infection anymore?...or...or..

This is a much more polite and respectful way of putting it than I would have used.

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As with all vaccines there are for sure coincidences in time with severe side effects incl. deaths, that may suggest, there could be a direct link.

It's always about business. If you do stay on a cliff the last kick is what you killed. So > 90% of CoV-19 deaths are last kick deaths according a UK report. The same for vaccines. But as said business reports (almost) no problems from vaccines but all deaths due to CoV-19.

You have to learn how to interpret fake news especially today where 99.9% of the statements come from company (e.g. Pfizer) marketing.

The 1000 death mark from CoV-19 vaccines has been passed a long time (> 3 weeks) ago. Not even counting the vaccine induced CoV-19 deaths - as a vaccination first weakens your immune response and make you more vulnerable to infections. Same with steroids.

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No coercion in the United States? Have you read or watched the news?

There is no coercion by public agencies. Families and some companies such as restaurants may be coercing, but that's their business.

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Shaming is coercion

You have set a low bar. Anything is coercion in that case. People try to shame one another for all kinds of reasons. A child crying for an ice cream cone is coercion. Your wife acting snippy because you did not clear the table is coercion. Demanding your family member attend church services is coercion.

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your opinion on herd immunity is not shared by the NIH as they have advised survivors of covid to still get vaccinated.

That is a precaution because immunity can fail for any disease. People occasionally get sick again from an infectious disease even though they had it before.

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If a state says your kid must be vaccinated to attend public school, that is a form of coercion to be vaccinated.

That is coercion. No federal or government agency in the U.S. is doing that for COVID-19. It may be that governments in other nations are. I wouldn't know. There is zero chance any government agency will do that in the U.S., given the hysterical, irrational opposition to vaccinations and science in general in the U.S. these days.

Don't get me wrong. I am entirely in favor of coercion in this case. They darn well should mandate COVID-19 vaccinations, just as they mandate you stop at red lights, and you are not allowed to shit on the food in grocery stores. I am in favor of mandating vaccinations for children before allowing them into public schools.

However, they are not going to mandate COVID-19 vaccinations. They did not mandate masks, so several tens of thousands of people died.