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The South African coronavirus mutation can infect multiple times, could hamper vaccine

A new study reveals that a large number of people with COVID-19 antibodies may not be protected from the new strain

https://www.salon.com/2021/01/…mes-could-hamper-vaccine/

Amutant strain of the novel coronavirus discovered in South Africa appears to be able to ward off antibodies from individuals who had previously recovered from COVID-19 — meaning if the new strain becomes widespread, we may see more people getting infected multiple times

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Does the article say to what extent the

re-infection will happen?.

I guess, if everyone can get infected multiple times but no one dies or even goes to the hospital, it might be a good sign that the virus is mutating to a less infectious form.

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FM

Does the article say to what extent the

re-infection will happen?.

I guess, if everyone can get infected multiple times but no one dies or even goes to the hospital, it might be a good sign that the virus is mutating to a less infectious form.

No but other study's estimate up to 10% right now but climbing and mutating to a less infectious form,

That outcome would be great but evidence now is pointing to the virus becoming more deadly and vaccine not very effective with infection and transmission still posible, and those infected requiring treatment are getting younger and younger. MIS-C is rising, more long Covid.cases. without early treatment this is not going away.

Military task force warns that Israeli COVID variant could emerge

https://www.timesofisrael.com/…variant-could-emerge/amp/

military-led task force has warned of the potential emergence of a mutated Israeli variant of the coronavirus resistant to vaccines.

In a report for the Coronavirus National Information and Knowledge Center on Saturday, Military Intelligence recommended that due to fears over the possible development of an Israeli strain, those who have received vaccines or recovered from COVID-19 be tested for the coronavirus and be subject to quarantine requirements upon entering the country.

The mass vaccine campaign taking place parallel to the active outbreak in Israel may lead to ‘evolutionary pressure’ on the virus,” the report said.

Nearly 2.5 million Israelis have received the first dose of the coronavirus vaccine, and over 946,000 have received both shots. Israel has set a target to vaccinate its entire eligible adult population by March.

How COVID-19 Attacks The Brain And May Cause Lasting Damage

https://www.npr.org/sections/h…-may-cause-lasting-damage

understand other, less obvious mechanisms, though, scientists needed brain tissue from patients with COVID-19 who died. And early in the pandemic they couldn't get that tissue, says Dr. Avindra Nath of the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke.

"Because it was such an infectious organism, people were not conducting autopsies at most places," Nath says. They simply lacked the protective gear that would allow them to remove a brain safely.

That's changing, though, says Nath, who was part of a team that studied brain tissue from 19 COVID-19 patients.

The team saw widespread evidence of inflammation and damage, they reported Dec. 30 in The New England Journal of Medicine.

They also found a possible explanation for the damage.

"What we found was that the very small blood vessels in the brain were leaking," Nath says. "And it wasn't evenly — you would find a small blood vessel here and a small blood vessel there."

The injuries resembled those from a series of tiny strokes occurring in many different areas of the brain, Nath says.

The finding may explain why COVID-19 patients have such a wide range of brain-related symptoms, Nath says, including some related to brain areas that control functions such as heart rate, breathing and blood pressure

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No but other study's estimate up to 10% right now but climbing and mutating to a less infectious form,

A less infectious form will not spread as rapidly, so it will lose the evolutionary competition. The more infectious forms win out. On the other hand, less dangerous, less debilitating mutations tend to become more common over time because they do not kill as many hosts (patients), and because hosts can walk around and infect other people instead of lying sick in bed.

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The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said that “there was no evidence that vaccines failed to work against new variants,” but that it had made the issue a priority.

I linked (yesterday - financed by Pfizer) the paper that shows the above statement is blatant lie. All vaccine manufactures stopped production and plan updates.

Going on with RNA vaccination is now more than unexpected genocide. This vaccine show is obviously commanded by drug addicted brain damaged investors.

Who here wants to live with ACE-2 antibodies - really???

"Pfizer stopped production (Clearly communicated by Belgium factory) and just ships stock! They are reprogramming/adding new RNA and thus you will get a completely untested vaccine within 2-3 weeks from now!"

There is no way that an mRNA vaccine can be reprogrammed within a few days / weeks (even if it might be possible from a biochemical perspective) and replaces the version approved so far... If true that would make you another Snowden...Where did you get such information? The official version for producing lower numbers is a reorganization to increase the output of the current vaccine, not sure if all true, but your hypothesis is quite questionable...

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There is no way that an mRNA vaccine can be reprogrammed within a few days / weeks (even if it might be possible from a biochemical perspective) and replaces the version approved so far...

One of the researchers did say they can reprogram it much faster than previous vaccines, and that a slightly reprogrammed version would still be approved under FDA guidelines. He said this might be necessary if the virus mutates and becomes resistant to the present vaccine. But that has not happened yet. It is not resistant.

Perhaps this statement by the researcher mutated into the rumor quoted here, that it is now being reprogrammed. The facts are that it can be reprogrammed, but it isn't being reprogrammed now.

(I don't think it can be done in a few weeks. He didn't say that.)

So far, all the researchers I have read in the mass media say they are confident that the present vaccines are effective against the mutated forms. The mutated forms are more dangerous because they spread more easily. The other day, Boris Johnson announced that the UK mutation may cause more fatalities in people over 65. (He looked half-dead himself, even more than usual, as if someone woke him up at 3 am and asked him to make a statement.) However, he and the experts he quoted did not say the UK variant is resistant to the vaccine.

Thanks, my intention was to find out where I can read about that Pfizer did stop all production of the current vaccine, because they are about to produce and deliver "reprogrammed" vaccine....

Biontech CEO Ugur Sahin told in several interviews that an mRNA vaccine can be developed in one week, production of first batch another week, but clinical tests would take much longer:

17 Dec. 2020:

https://www.businessinsider.de…einen-corona-impfstoff-c/

To test the vaccine properly, he tells that they need 10‘000 people, but tells in the next sentence:

He does not think that the vaccine could have any disadvantage.

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He does not think that the vaccine could have any disadvantage.

Frankenstein Science....for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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To test the vaccine properly, he tells that they need 10‘000 people,

Sahin's latest biorxiv paper has some evidence from a few people..

that the vaccine is effective against some of the new variants of the virus

https://www.biorxiv.org/conten…1.01.18.426984v1.full.pdf

19th January..

watch this space.. I guess its worth Sahin's time to keep checking the efficacy..

but Australia is saved.. Hallelujah... "we're on top of this"....

"The Pfizer vaccine has passed the test for safety and efficacy..."

Morning news just now,.. 9.15 am National TV..

https://www.abc.net.au/news/20…ed-australia-tga/13087990

Evolution in progress..

Another variant..

https://www.latimes.com/califo…rn-of-coronavirus-variant

To make it clear: Currently it is only highly likely that the vaccines do longer fully or even partially protect the vaccinated. The first deep blood antibody studies had a small sample size but showed loss in functionality of up 85% what ever this means as there is no mean to know how our bodies employs these functionalities.

Because even among high risk people at least 50% show no symptoms after a contact with CoV-19 it is difficult to tell how good the vaccine effectively do work. It is now common accepted knowledge that for each positive tested case at least 3 hidden cases do exist. Whether this number is the same for the vaccine group would need more deep studies Pfizer had to finance!

The south Africa mutation shows a complete different adapter structure to ACE-2 that nowhere fit the antibodies produced by Pfizer/Moderna so this virus will potential also infect all so far vaccinated people. For the UK strain up to 70% protection is estimated.

What is unknown is the structure of the T-Cell memory induced by the vaccination. T-Cells produces a much broader variety of antibodies than a vaccination provokes, but this process is much slower and only fully works after a few days. So the question is will this reduced memory from an RNA vaccine be enough.

Also very clear: Politicians that say the vaccine is save do lie.The vaccine status is experimental only. Even worse if they now lie to the people and say that they are still protected. One wrong contact without the usual care could be the last deadly one!

Thus buy Ivermectin pills. 12mg in India cost 10 cents. You can order them online. It looks like Orange juice can full replace Doxycyline for blocking circulating virus. Also Sutherlandia so far did work good enough instead of Ivermectin. We had 4 people > age 80 with various preconditions and no progress of illness with Sutherlandia.

Can Ivermectin Help Prevent COVID-19 Deaths?

https://articles.mercola.com/s…ctin-for-coronavirus.aspx

STORY AT-A-GLANCE-

• While preliminary evidence seems to suggest Ivermectin can be useful at all stages of SARS-CoV-2 infection, its real strength appears to be as a preventive approach
• Of 58 health care workers who took ivermectin once a month for four months, only four (6.96%) came down with mild COVID-19 symptoms during the May through August 2020 trial period, compared to 44 of 60 health care workers (26.67%) who declined the medication
• In August 2020, India’s largest state, Uttar Pradesh, added ivermectin to its recommendations and distributed the drug for home care free of charge. The state of Bihar also started recommending ivermectin, and by the end of 2020, Bihar and Uttar Pradesh had the lowest and second-lowest COVID-19 fatality rates in all of India
• A WHO-sponsored review suggests ivermectin can reduce COVID-19 mortality by as much as 83%
• In the U.S., the Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance is calling for widespread adoption of ivermectin, both as a prophylactic and for the treatment of all phases of COVID-19

And please don't shoot the messenger.

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Of 58 health care workers who took ivermectin once a month for four months, only four (6.96%) came down with mild COVID-19 symptoms during the May through August 2020 trial period, compared to 44 of 60 health care workers (26.67%) who declined the medication

In the Argentina study pharmabaires.com-RESULTADOS POSITIVOS DEL PROTOCOLO IVERCAR EN LA PROFILAXIS DE LOS AGENTES DE SALUD.pdfwith > 1000 health care workers 800 with Ivermectin 0 got an infection = 100% protection (256 in the non group) . They used the FLCCC protocol or lets say FLCCC adopted it.

The old small study did use a lower dose.

China pushes fringe theories on pandemic origins, virus

https://apnews.com/article/pan…bb2d8d22d811bb3d0c90f7418

The Communist Party sees the WHO investigation as a political risk because it focuses attention on China’s response, said Jacob Wallis, a senior analyst at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute.

The party wants to “distract domestic and international audiences by pre-emptively distorting the narrative on where responsibility lies for the emergence of COVID-19,” Wallis said.

Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying got the ball rolling last week by calling for the WHO investigation of the U.S. military lab. The site had been mentioned previously by CGTN and other state-controlled outlets.

“If America respects the truth, then please open up Ft. Detrick and make public more information about the 200 or more bio-labs outside of the U.S., and please allow the WHO expert group to go to the U.S. to investigate the origins,” Hua said

New Zealand’s new COVID case is the South African variant

https://news.google.com/articl…=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

The woman, who recently returned from Europe, tested positive on Saturday, 10 days after she completed her compulsory two weeks in isolation at a hotel in the city of Auckland.

The case represents the first time the virus has breached a quarantine facility in more than two months, after New Zealand eliminated community spread of the virus. The Pacific nation has been widely praised for its handling of the pandemic, with just 25 deaths from 1,927 confirmed virus cases in a population of five million.

“We can confirm that the strain of infection is the South African variant and the source of infection is highly likely to be a fellow returnee during the person’s stay at the Pullman hotel,” Hipkins told reporters in the capital, Wellington.

Genome testing indicates the woman may have contracted the virus from a person on the same floor of the hotel who tested positive two days before she left quarantine, he said.

10 days after a 2 week quarantine she tested positive?

Alert: The mafia starts full Mengele trials! Watch out!

Swiss mafia recommends vaccination of pregnant woman albeit no tests were made and no data exists.

srf.ch-Neue Impfempfehlung des BAG - Schwangere mit Vorerkrankungen sollen sich doch impfen lassen.pdf

At the end you can read. Then we will have the data!!!!