The Exotic Vacuum Object (EVO) as the cause of the vacuum reaction.

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You don't accept the proof of EVO activity on the ten yen coin as pictured in the tracks that include the balls of transmuted metal as shown in the SEM micrograph (snowballs and cobblestones)?

Based on the line of evidence and chain of measurements? No.

Do you accept that the melting point of tungsten is irrelevant in an oxidizing atmosphere?

Do you accept the empirical limitations on IR thermometers?
Importantly, that one not made for use on gases are not appropriate to use on gases?

(IR spectrometry is commonly used to measure atmospheric gas concentrations, so it’s not a fundamental problem, it a design compatibility problem)

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the Ohmasa flame also produces holes in sheet of titanium through vaporization (no melting is visible) so the tungsten issues can be removed from consideration.

Or with the right tweak of the flame, oxidation. Burnt, not melted.

If it can be melted it can be welded.
Good luck.

If it disappears in smoke, it was burned.

Three years later and still no takers in the HHO cold flame to palm of the hand but hold it still for more than a few seconds not wave it by like a chicken proof.

or the safe version, the palm of hand made of chicken and give it a go.

It took about 12 seconds for a platinum welding Electrolyser torch to burn through an orange.

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If it can be melted it can be welded.
Good luck.

If it disappears in smoke, it was burned.

Three years later and still no takers in the HHO cold flame to palm of the hand but hold it still for more than a few seconds not wave it by like a chicken proof.

or the safe version, the palm of hand made of chicken and give it a go.

That's not entirely accurate. I have posted that one guy (David Donatelli) did it while visiting Ohmasa, he said he got burnt but the burnt healed in a few hours completely, He showed a picture in the video, I posted the link elsewhere.

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You can use the video above: Titanium sheet vs. OHMASA gas to time the production of holes using the .1 second frame rate. Stop timing after the pinhole first appears.

I am estimating the piece point time for a ‘cold’ flame HHO through the hand.

At one point people were claiming the flame was less than 100 C until the problem with easily boiling water with it was brought up. And moving the IR pyrometer around it might look like that. And then the magic of dissolved metal and the obvious heat on a persons hand. Now it is true that a hydrogen flame does not radiate much heat compared to flames humans are accustomed to. This is because most open flames used by humans have carbon particles in them that radiate as black bodies. This actually cools the flame, by rejecting heat radiantly at the forth power. HHO flames are hot. Oh yeah. Real hot. But because they do not emit much IR the oxidized hydrogen will contain most of the combustion heat until impact with something.

So, the newly formed water particles slam into titanium or tungsten at around 2800 C, and maybe as high as 3300 C (realizing this a distribution that could have individual molecules at 5500 C and 1200 C). If those metals ‘prefer’ to have the hydrogen or the oxygen or both, they can take it easily at these temperatures. Not to mention the uncombusted gasses in the flame stream which will freely react. Titanium has catalytic activity with hydrogen so you know it’s going to do something exciting when hit with a shower of 3000 C hydrogen molecules in a oxygen-rich environment.

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You can use the video above: Titanium sheet vs. OHMASA gas to time the production of holes using the .1 second frame rate. Stop timing after the pinhole first appears

Well, it still looks like burning to me. Notice the way the 'spot' brightens when the torch is moved closer so that uncombusted gas (which is 1/3 pure oxygen) hits the already yellow-hot titanium surface. As you can see in the mercifully short video below it is almost as easy to set fire to as magnesium.

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Well, it still looks like burning to me.

As you know, and to state the obvious, when you are resorting to "what it looks like" in pictures and videos to justify your science, that is pseudo-science.

This is the problem with the Greenyer's and Axil's of this field.

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The use of Teflon as a failproof indicator of temperature discounts all these imagined provisos about speculative chemical processes that prejudice proper situational evaluation.

Spoken as a true lawyer!

I object your honor! Motion to strike from the record.

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Regarding: "Well, it still looks like burning to me". You have not explained how white hot titanium and copper both cannot melt Teflon when those bright (Not hot) metals touch the Teflon. This contact is maintained for an extended timeframe until the metal explodes. You also cannot explain how the hole in the titanium develops as the bright spot in the titanium dims (not cools). You also have not mentions how both these bright metals explode when placed in contact with the Teflon even when the Teflon remains unaffected through the explosion. Furthermore, you offer no explanation for the detection of metal distruction as seen in the SEM with carbon micro balls located in the middle of those tracks of removed metal. Those identical tracks of material destruction have been seen on SEM in the LION experiment and the THOR system.

The use of Teflon as a failproof indicator of temperature discounts all these imagined provisos about speculative chemical processes that prejudice proper situational evaluation.

Teflon burns really dangerously. It doesn’t need to burn to off-gas something really nasty.

Fluoro-phosgene gas IIRC?

That has nothing to do with the experiment you quote but it is so dangerous to put a torch or excessive heat to Teflon I must comment.