It just seems for me, we can also see a bit of blue haze around active zone of reactor. It could be indeed an artifact of camera, the sensor of which is overflooded with IR radiation.
me356: Reactor parameters [part 2]
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It just seems for me, we can also see a bit of blue haze around active zone of reactor. It could be indeed an artifact of camera, the sensor of which is overflooded with IR radiation.
Camera is some raberry pi includes, he mention it. It is not imposible find model he uses.
Blue halo is maybe beta emission hit to nitrogen, ceramics dosn't shield it well. Betas are claimed quite often. Me356 have offered more pictures from that reactor, dimensions are easilly calculated from standard bricks etc. He claims nice cops from that style reactor but cop still <10.
Then he build quartz (is it sure quartz?) tube reactor where he test modulated plasma discharge and claims cop level 200. Before he had mention also he don't use powders. So inside can be some rolled Ni foil, bunch of cutted Ni wires or powder (powder may affect vacuum pump / float in tube..?)
Unmodulated discharge is seen in picture. Have anybody idea from pressure, voltage, and current levels? Picture give lot of data. Posible modulation frequency range?Heater coil is powered with triacs / mosfets etc. directly from mains generated DC (mention in some post) (or rebuild diffrent, unlikely). So heater generated/modulation B-fields teslas are low. Some early 2015 pictures how coil is done, looks same old owen pipe(?)
Posible heater modulation frequency range 0-100khz?? Impedance can calculate if it is same owen as 2015 picture.I think there is so much data that there is not need to wait me365 publish it. It need replication and programmig skills to find all posible modulations. Raspi can do it in some weeks, desing look robust enough to last months in such low heater temp <<700C.
If cop 200 then result is clear.
Ni preprocess is important, there are oxidation/reduction recipies that work at some level and me356 mention that only one succesfull replication report describle it.And if tube is quartz it dosn't resist molten lithium, so quite big posibility that there is not lithium at all or me356 risk tube live..? He give claims not to use lithium sometimes.
Add more pieces to puzzle please
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Ok, me356 give lot of data from plasma (B) reactor when read whole thread, there is some collected.
Two pictures from reactor (B) show that heater is moved between pictures. Maybe fuel piece little too. Corona/arc little expands near heater in picture 1, suggest there is only small piece of nickel/tungsten.
There is lot of data from plasma reactor/conditions, but me365 tell fuel preprocess only little. Ideas what he have done?
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Reactor B (utilizing plasma) is made mainly from quartz tube. So the plasma is visible and it is glowing very nicely.
This is not a replication, but very different kind of reactor.
This reactor was not loaded with any Lithium, only trace of Nickel and mainly Tungsten.After tuning ionization parameters I have found something interesting. Abnormal temperature spikes occured from time to
time. So I have tried to set optimal conditions. After a while of fine-tuning, temperature shooted so high that COP 2
was achieved. It was rather coincidence that I have proceeded in this way.. Because temperature increased so high (just
in 1 second) I have immediately turned off the stimulation as I was afraid. I am sure that the COP would increase to at
least 4. I have verified detectors, everything was in normal level. When turned off, temperature dropped immediately,
but not completely and excess heat was still present (with logarithmic declination) for at least 10 minutes until
returned to its original level (no excess heat).Before I have started with tuning, I have found that there was high energetic neutron burst. So my focus stayed on the
detector all the time and fortunately I was unable to detect anything more.Excess heat was triggered at 350°C. Power level during the test was constant. Reactor glowed enormously (purple to white
color). Plasma was in 3/4 of the fuel chamber, even where anode/kathode was not present which was quite interesting.I am controlling H1 production directly
I am sure that the reaction will work with many other transition metals. By selecting correct materials you can get a different output products.
My update: I have tested plasma based reactor for longer period of time.. Results are clear.
Unfortunately the power that is under the lid is so strong I will probably not continue in this area.
Reactor is emmiting neutrons a few days after the test!
Emmissions (RF, electrons and UV) during the test were so strong that my control circuit was absolutely crazy even that
it was 3 meters away - it is unusable.No, this is not true. Higher neutron flux can be achieved even with Parkhomov-like reactor and with pressures under 3 Bars.
You do not need any acceleration e.g. by high voltage.
On the other hand it is great indicator that the mouse process is working properly.
The most problematic part is, when the excess heat is triggered.Interesting observation today - To start the secondary reaction (Cat), Lithium should be in contact with Nickel or in "a
direct visibility". If there is some material, that will block products of the Mouse process, it will not work or it can
be significantly throttled.But from my experiments, it looks like it is not that easy. Lithium is also affecting the transition metal (Nickel) and
at least from what I have saw, the heat is not comming just from lithium itself, but also from the nickel. Next
interesting thing is how lithium is behaving in the reactor if it is in a bulk form (in some cases). When it is inside
nickel (covered from each side) it does not react chemically with nickel nearly at all. At least if nickel is prepared
well. It is looking as if it is levitating inside and after excess heat it looks like a dried-fruit. So only peripheral
surface will stay there (probably contamimants). Even alumina tube is not touched by lithium at all which is very good.
No traces of vaporized lithium are found (at least optically) which mean the reaction was complete and extremely fast.Yes, resistance of the fuel is dropping always in the latest experiments while Ni-H reaction is active. But exact reason
for this is not known yet. I can increase/decrease the resistance on will (mostly in range of 10 - 40% of the original
value).Regarding the question about IGBT: Yes, I still use IGBTs but also MOSFETs (depending on the operation). I also use
triac boards. But this is not necessity. In LENR you can replace one thing with another relatively easily. This makes it
very good because you are not limited with a certain materials and techniques.Hank Mills: To make it work, you will need Lithium in vicinity or in a direct contact with Nickel. If LiAlH4 is used
only for supplying hydrogen, you can use whatever else, but the reaction will be just Ni-H. Yes, removing aluminium will
make the reaction stronger.Hank Mills: there are usually at least two problems. One which nearly nobody is doing, but is done by a successfull
replicators (if done, chances of getting excess heat is probably 90% higher) and second that all unsuccessfull
replicators are unaware. Second one is not mentioned in any replication report and even not all successfull replicators
might be aware of this. But you can still find at least a hint in one report.This mean, that everything you will need was already told in the reports. No one is replicating exactly. But doing so is
really hard.Replicators are speding too much effort in the areas that can be done in a few seconds. But areas that are necessary are
not done at all.I have also found new directions where to go. Observed phenomenons are so strange that I can't understand, how something
like this is possible. Well, I understand it now, but with logical thinking it is not easy. Similar as that you can park
submarine in a matchbox.I can't tell the details, although I would like to share my excitement.
In some experiments, with a certain materials and in a certain conditions, one can establish a transfer channel. It can be considered as "a black hole".
This mean, that in just few miliseconds even 1L of hydrogen can just "disappear" and is irreversibly transformed to other kind of energy (including neutron radiation).
We can completely exclude lithium or similar compounds that can create a hydrides.This behavior can be performed repeatedly, if correct conditions are set.
Enormous COP can be achieved (100 and more).
Regarding plasma there are more reasons why to use it. There are more utilizations. For example arcing can be used in very different way than a glow discharge. Both can boost the effect, but you can also replace it with other phenomenons. LENR can be stimulated in many ways.
Charlie Tapp: Yes, one heating coil can indirectly work as stimulation too.
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I know it's been raised elsewhere but perhaps cyclically freezing the water would be more effective? (Frozen Water expands when it turns to ice and is solid so will not move and more likely create stresses.)
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You can easily make nickel grains porous by subjecting them to consecutive oxidation-reduction cycles at high temperature. Yes, it is dangerous. People have talked about heating nickel particles at about 200°C to make the absorbed water explode, but I think this is a misinterpretation of the Rossi patent, not to mention ridiculous. This is not going to cause explosions. However when you reduce oxidated particles with hydrogen you are actually forming water in its entire volume. And if the process occurs at high temperature the water formed will flash vaporize. The end product can be then ball milled for reducing overall particles size.
I have performed this maneuver a few times at 200C using chemically generated and dried Hydrogen at 1Bar max and a good Vacuum pump. It is time consuming and not particularly risky. You see a little bit of water vapour momentarily condensing on the upper part of the vacuum flask on each hydrogen cycle, but the VP soon takes it away.
The 'explosion' stuff is probably a translation artifact - the process results in 'popcorning' the Ni particles perhaps. Nothing has gone bang - er even crackle yet. Lacking an SEM or even a seriously good mettalurgical microscope it's hard for me to be sure about precisely what happens- I am inferring, not claiming..
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It can be dangerous if the reduction with hydrogen is carried out at very high temperatures in the order of 800-1000 °C and over, as illustrated in the paper previously linked. Luckily at these temperatures a greatly lower H2 pressure than 1 bar is sufficient for the process to complete with success.
Easily accomplished in a reactor. Only problem I can see is the super-clean Nickel sintering into a lump.
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Any of you guys following engineer 48 at ecat world seems to be getting interesting overthere
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Any of you guys following engineer 48 at ecat world seems to be getting interesting overthere
Can you give direct link where engineer48 explain what is under hood in me356 reactor or other lenr systems? For fast search I can only find (scam) selling 1K$ kit.
me365 claims powder form is not needed. But don't talk Ni/W foil/bars/wires pretreatment. What kind of surface it should be to work well and what kind of surface known working reciepies generate?
If The thing is surface, powder give only advantage that it have more surface area so not so good pretreatments can generate enough reactive sites to get noticiable XH. Good pretreatment can do bar/foil reactive enough to get XH?
Ni pretreatments?From me365 older thread:
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1. try all possible dead volume configurations to obtain ~5 bar peak
Moreover 5 bars could be not optimal and there surely is more ideal pressure range. So we have to make reactors as
easy and reliable as possible. This will allow to conduct the tests in same conditions. Current model can vary
extremely with all parameters. As Rossi said, the pressure is key factor.
(from me356 video he use 8-9bar LAH system )If Chinese scientist is right, then demands for the excess heat are not so high in terms of power supply.
It seems as it can be powered with anything, signal is not that important to get excess heat.
But correct signal can make SSM cycles longer and more efficient.We only have to:
1. load nickel with enough hydrogen - this should be done between 100 - 300°C for few hours.
2. now we should be able to trigger LENR. The problem here is, how.He thinks that EM field created by rapid change of the voltage level is the reason for triggering LENR.
Also he described me, that initial process took him approx. 18 hours, then excess heat was observed.Even one sharp spike could trigger LENR if the power is high enough.
Thanks, I am studying Piantelli, Focardi papers and it seems that hydrogen absorption is occuring around 120°C and
more. Actually with temperatures under 200°C it can be few times faster.I am thinking about making hydrogenation process better. For now it seems that it is needed to hydrogenate nickel in cycles.
Maybe succesfull replicators did it by mistake or intentionally.Also it is possible that if we want excess heat with just one hydrogenation procedure we have to met more strict conditions
(for example vacuum from the beginning, optimal pressure range, certain nickel type, ..).I am thinking about getting excess heat.. I believe that to achieve it, we need contant pressure change.
Following steps should be performed periodically:
1. load hydrogen with nickel (slow process)
2. release hydrogen from nickel as fast as possible (theoretically fast process)During hydrogen release we can observe excess heat if the pressure change derivation is high enough until nickel absorb
hydrogen again.The problem is, we don't know how to release hydrogen from nickel correctly. At least after latest experiments I know how
to absorb hydrogen by nickel quite well.- when I had a dramatic drop in temperature, the pressure increased. It did it at time of death, twice,
Yes, this could be the event I am talking about - it could be the start of excess heat. I also think that we dont really
need pressure under the atmospheric. Only pressure change rate is important. Sudden increase obviously is starting the process.- Maybe that is what is happening in the "ssm" mode. No power rapidly decrease temperature, onset of increased pressure and
activity, until it dies out, and then power on again to put temp back on level, pressure leveling, then power off,
trigger new pressure increase, and activity, etcI suspect, that you can release hydrogen from nickel by either sudden increase or decrease of the temperature
I am convinced that to get excess heat itself we do not need any magnetic stimulation or anything special if we are not
talking about Hot Cat.
There can be part of the process, that needs external stimulation, but the core process will really not need it.
Stimulation could be only prerequisite for other factor, that is causing excess heat.And it will work with more materials.
Nickel - Hydrogen system is just the cheapest as far as I know.- Main feature is, that the process is cyclic.
- Period could be 10s or even few days long.
- The whole process is very similar to breathing.
- We can get extreme COP easily, but the process may be dangerous because of excess radiation.
- Neutron bursts are created in a greater extent with respect to COP we intend to get.
- It can work in wide range of temperatures - this is dependent on used materials.They are old text and he can think diffrent now, but hydrogenation with cycles can be worth to test. It may affect Ni surface and can do in pretreatment process. 8bar is easy with botled hydrogen.
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Hi euros go to ecatworld and look at the thread about mats lewan gold nuggets there is one here also but the guys over there are really mabee nailing the coffin shut on how the whole thing works
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If you are interested in Ni Hydrogenation, you might like this paper I wrote showing how I do it. With simple equipment.
http://www.lookingforheat.com/hydrogenated-nickel-bolognese/
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Can you give direct link where engineer48 explain what is under hood in me356 reactor or other lenr systems?
Hello eros: I would invest 2-3 hours in studying the Ethiam patent US20150162104A1. They discuss many different effects (When to use Fe2O3/Fe3O4 ,Ca,K etc.) to enhance LENR reactions. In fact their writing is a decent summary of usefull methods(and ideas)!
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Alan Smith:
QuoteYou might well be right. We certainly do much better business in thermocouples...
Nothing wrong with that but it makes me curious. You compete with the likes of Omega? http://www.omega.com/section/thermocouples.html
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Nothing wrong with that but it makes me curious. You compete with the likes of Omega?
Not really a competitor MY. Omega sell all kinds of thermocouples, but at Lookingforheat we just sell basic K-type thermocouples in stainless sheaths with shielded leads, normally good for 1250C. Main difference between ours and the similar Omega ones is price- we are often 75% cheaper. The temperature display and 800C TC for example is $12.50 and a standard long reach K-type for higher temps is $11.50.
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/* But (me356) don't talk Ni/W foil/bars/wires pretreatment. What kind of surface it should be to work well and what kind of surface known working reciepies generate? */
The glowing discharge can implant hydrogen ions beneath surface of nickel forcefully, it will also reduce the nickel oxides and erode them, thus increasing the surface area (principle of spattering) - so no pretreatment of nickel may be actually necessary.
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Hi euros go to ecatworld and look at the thread about mats lewan gold nuggets there is one here also but the guys over there are really mabee nailing the coffin shut on how the whole thing works
OK, in comments (in very hard findable form) it may generate something:
- Engineer48 (Frank? from australia) think he have find enough data to build/sell kit. Hoewer nothing real have done. Only planning and talking. Hope that some real appear and promises keep.
- under E-cat hood may be some P+Ni reaction that expells protons to do P+Li7 fission to He4
- me365 scared neutrons may come from P+Li6->He3+He4. Use Li7 isotope only or drive reactor level that generate low enough proton energies to not be enough break Li6.
-Nicel (or other) proton gun material need to prehandled / nanostructured with correct surface mouse holes. Best ones are regular types to generate nice fat in correct reconance energized mouses to
taste Li7 fission and holes don't breed faster mousest that can do Li6 neutrons.So submarine in matchbox, this is high energy physics, no new physics, even enertically moustly no fusion but P+Li7 fission. Funny and engineerable.
Important are how make correct qood mouse breeding nickel (&others) cheese surface structure?
Question/point from etiam, I have read they patents /docs some time ago. Find nothing important (my opinion). They claims cop 1.08 ~8hrs run. I have currently running reactor cop~1.15 (ofcourse calorymetry (=pollucom es) can be failed mystically) it have done it days and simulation signals have diffrencies. Etiam don't have it yet. They only test diffrents powders. No product, idea, high cop etc.
And if it is like above etiam patent is quite valueless.Next IPR battle come from Ni (&others) surface etching / nanostructuring to be correct proton gun. So publish as much baking reciepes as posible to deny patenting and remember link them P+Li7 fission(fusion)
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If you are interested in Ni Hydrogenation, you might like this paper I wrote showing how I do it. With simple equipment.
I am quite sure it is not enough. Me365 talk cycles, GS5.2 bake/reduce few cycles and got signal. Me365 talk also some nickel samples need more cycles and well done nickel starts easilly.
I have baked my nickel near red hot ~1min and reduce 1atm slow heat increment up to ~700C (~celani wire). It is inefficient but show something.When you have mouse holes digged then your hydrogeneation reciepe is fine (but can do in reactor too) According me356 (dosnt write directly) Li should mix after Ni pretreatment is done well or its reacts with Ni.
And forgot previous post:
- don't mix LAH and Ni+Li, because Al spoils reaction. Separate LAH cavity (heater1) and Ni+Li cavity (heater2), connect them only with small hole H2 to travel. Then you can controll H2 pressure with heater 1 and fuel with heater 2. Manometer may help to get/controll 8bar range.. -
The glowing discharge can implant hydrogen ions beneath surface of nickel forcefully, it will also reduce the nickel oxides and erode them, thus increasing the surface area (principle of spattering) - so no pretreatment of nickel may be actually necessary.Oxidation is not pretreatment? Oxide thickness/structure may affect reduced holes size/deep?
From shopping nickel you gan get very diffrent oxide coatings? Where to shop Ni with correct oxides or how to make correct ones? How to reduce / sputter them corret mouse holes?
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Li7 + P and Li6 + P is claimed annoutronic fusion, so previous Li6 + P do neutrons data maybe wrong? (from ecatworld)
Is there some side reactions that can explain more neutrons from Li6 + P? He3 like neutrons. Why production of He3 may do neutrons?
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If you are following the indications of Piantelli why simply not use Boron powder instead of Lithium? That will solve the melting and corrosion problems.
Boron is not an alkali metal as is lithium and hydrogen. Boron does not produce rydberg blockade. Therefore Boron will not work in LENR.
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